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Please Help Me!! What would you like most in both an air hall and 50m rifle facilites? What have you seen that works best in layout and conveinence factors? What mistakes in these areas have you seen and what would you do to correct those instakes? Any other ideas.


Thanks,

Jack

Enough room and benches/tables to put your equipment on without constantly tripping all over everybody elses gear. And a nearby cleaner area where you can leave your munchies, to avoid contaminating your cheez-N-crackers with lead dust.

And nearby restrooms with plenty of coathooks, shelves, chairs (maybe even locker space) to make it easy for changing into & out of shooting clothing.

Thank you both!! Great ideas!!

Jack

50m range should not point into the sun!

here in Phoenix we have a GREAT club with a big disadvantage, rifle shooters aim SOUTH!!!! into the winter sun, its a terrible light condition! (2 other ranges in town point north so all is not lost)

are you in the process of designing a range somewhere? where?

for NRA you need 50 feet, 50yd, 50m and 100yd, for int'l you need 50m only. If you are in the US, for junior olympic stuff you need 50 feet.

Ft Benning has pull down sun shades that can be positioned over the shooter's rifle

lights on the firing line and wiring electric boxes to the firing line adds the possibility of night shooting, but if the background behind the target is also illuminated that is even better.

extend the concrete about 1m in front of the firing line to make it easier to pick up brass

if you are in the US, cut the target frames to allow both the 5-bull NRA targets or the 6-bull international.

set up 50m range so u can shoot all positions AND pistol

cover the ground with something (gravel or grass) so shooters don't have to walk thru the mud to change targets.

Camping area on the range property would be GREAT

i'll probly think of more things.

Poole
http://arizona.rifleshooting.com/

Bill Poole wrote:
extend the concrete about 1m in front of the firing line to make it easier to pick up brass

Poole
http://arizona.rifleshooting.com/

This is stating to become a thing of the past - the additional concrete apron adds complication and cost to the provision of a full safety range.

A better solution is a sand 'trap' in front of the firing line and mesh panels in, or on, the sand - pick up the panels and the cases and other rubbish are separated from the sand, tip off the cases and replace the panels on the sand.

S

Bill,

We are looking at expanding our range just west of San Antonio, Texas. Thanks for your input.

Jack

Before you start, I would suggest you contact John Joines at the NRA. He is the head man at the range department. He can have a RTTA visit you club and address your concerns.

The more knowlede you can gather before working on upgrades, etc. the better for your club and yourself.

I am an RTTA myself, and have witnessed may ranges who "put the cart in front of the horse" and paid dearly for it.

I find that almost everyone connected with shooting is an "Expert" when it comes to ranges. You need to contact the "Experts" and get the real scoop.

It's your nickel.
TM

Spencer C wrote:

Bill Poole wrote:
extend the concrete about 1m in front of the firing line to make it easier to pick up brass

Poole
http://arizona.rifleshooting.com/

This is stating to become a thing of the past - the additional concrete apron adds complication and cost to the provision of a full safety range.

A better solution is a sand 'trap' in front of the firing line and mesh panels in, or on, the sand - pick up the panels and the cases and other rubbish are separated from the sand, tip off the cases and replace the panels on the sand.

S

SAND? YECH!!

I would not want any sand blowing around me anywhere close to precision bolts, barrels, and sights. I'd think sand was primitive and passe, not concrete. How about a little wood decking?

The ability to see the time cloks while pointing toward the targets would be nice! Most ranges hang the clock behind the firing line, meaning you have to turn around to see it. At Xavier, they have these massive LCD readouts for the countdown timer, hung from the ceiling ahead of the firing line.

WRC wrote:The ability to see the time cloks while pointing toward the targets would be nice! Most ranges hang the clock behind the firing line, meaning you have to turn around to see it. At Xavier, they have these massive LCD readouts for the countdown timer, hung from the ceiling ahead of the firing line.

looking at the clock instead of the sight picture is probably as much use as looking at the monitor for electronic targets (instead of following through) - some of the more dedicated shooters might be able to combine both distractions...

Anonymous wrote:

WRC wrote:The ability to see the time cloks while pointing toward the targets would be nice! Most ranges hang the clock behind the firing line, meaning you have to turn around to see it. At Xavier, they have these massive LCD readouts for the countdown timer, hung from the ceiling ahead of the firing line.

looking at the clock instead of the sight picture is probably as much use as looking at the monitor for electronic targets (instead of following through) - some of the more dedicated shooters might be able to combine both distractions...

Gee, I don't know how else you are going to pace yourself without actually looking at the time clock now and then. I like to know exactly how much time is left, especially in prone. If I can see the official time with turning into a contortionist by having to look backward to find the clock, that's better.