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CM200ei or p85

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:41 am
by Mk4Zero
Hi guys,

I primarily shoot Bullseye but want to get into 10m AP and Rapid Fire. Right now I’m looking for an AP for the convenience of dry firing vs pulling back the hammer on my firearms. Buy once, cry once is my thing

I was lucky to be able to dry fire most of the popular models at Camp Perry and for single shot I definitely like the CM200ei trigger

The p8x is nice but not as nice for me. The p85, on the other hand, has the 5 shot magazine I’d like to utilize for rapid fire practice.

I’ll probably end up with both over the next two years so between the two, what would you guys think is the better choice for dry firing practice?


I guess I should ask, do I need to have air in the tank to dry fire the p85? I imagine so which would make me lean to CM200ei


Thanks!

Re: CM200ei or p85

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:58 am
by mc_tt
I too am interested in a p85, but unsure where to get one in the US

Re: CM200ei or p85

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:03 am
by Mk4Zero
mc_tt wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:58 am I too am interested in a p85, but unsure where to get one in the US
I asked Krale USA. Björn sent me a configurator link, Feinbauwerk website, and had me send him model code so he can submit it to FWB.

Re: CM200ei or p85

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:44 pm
by spiza
Mk4Zero wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:41 am Hi guys,

I primarily shoot Bullseye but want to get into 10m AP and Rapid Fire. Right now I’m looking for an AP for the convenience of dry firing vs pulling back the hammer on my firearms. Buy once, cry once is my thing

I was lucky to be able to dry fire most of the popular models at Camp Perry and for single shot I definitely like the CM200ei trigger

The p8x is nice but not as nice for me. The p85, on the other hand, has the 5 shot magazine I’d like to utilize for rapid fire practice.

I’ll probably end up with both over the next two years so between the two, what would you guys think is the better choice for dry firing practice?


I guess I should ask, do I need to have air in the tank to dry fire the p85? I imagine so which would make me lean to CM200ei


Thanks!
Did you try the Walther Lp500 electronic one? As for me, I am thinking to get the cm200ei or the lp500 electronic master.

Re: CM200ei or p85

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:47 am
by Ramon OP
Between a 1 shot and a 5 shot pistol, I would go for the single shot pistol first, as it is the one you will use the most and you can use it to train parts of the rapid fire routine (raise , movement, first shot...). It is very hard to find clubs equipped for rapid fire training.

The trigger (at least for the Steyr LP50 ) is a completely different experience. The single shots have a two stage trigger , the RFP doesn't. I like both types, but you have to adapt.

Re: CM200ei or p85

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:09 pm
by Mk4Zero
spiza wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:44 pm

Did you try the Walther Lp500 electronic one? As for me, I am thinking to get the cm200ei or the lp500 electronic master.
I haven't, have you handled both?

Ramon OP wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:47 am Between a 1 shot and a 5 shot pistol, I would go for the single shot pistol first, as it is the one you will use the most and you can use it to train parts of the rapid fire routine (raise , movement, first shot...). It is very hard to find clubs equipped for rapid fire training.

The trigger (at least for the Steyr LP50 ) is a completely different experience. The single shots have a two stage trigger , the RFP doesn't. I like both types, but you have to adapt.
That's eye opening! I didn't consider them different

Reading the description of the p85x, I thought it would be the same exact model as the p8x but with rapid fire abilities! I didn't realize that it lacks features

Luckily for me, the P85x has an adjustable 2stage trigger, according to the manual of both, it has same angle adjustments

The p85x seem to lack the 3d grip adjustment and absorber the p8x has

P 85
https://www.feinwerkbau.de/en/products/ ... s/fwb-p-85

p 8x
https://www.feinwerkbau.de/en/products/ ... s/fwb-p-8x


Paid €2050 from Krale for the p85


Does anyone in Southern California have a p8x? I'd love to compare

Re: CM200ei or p85

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:43 pm
by Grippy
The LP50 has a two stage trigger. You just can't adjust the stages individually. Also it is slightly "rolling". Incidentally I recently had the chance to hold a P85. It does appear to have a much crisper trigger. So I'm tempted.

Re: CM200ei or p85

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:43 am
by Azmodan
Celine Goberville just got a P85 and she's taking questions:
https://www.facebook.com/CelineGobervil ... eXpj4oakRl

Re: CM200ei or p85

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:04 pm
by KDZ
Azmodan wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:43 am Celine Goberville just got a P85 and she's taking questions:
https://www.facebook.com/CelineGobervil ... eXpj4oakRl
Thank you. Anything not on Fakebook?

Re: CM200ei or p85

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:03 pm
by Gwelo
Here is a 3 page thread on the P85. It is the only one owned by an actual consumer that I know of. He is in Norway and also owns other 5 shot pistols from Aeron, FWB and Steyr.

https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/fw ... t.1309822/

Re: CM200ei or p85

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:18 pm
by PirateJohn
I have serious buyer's remorse for my CM200EI. It crapped out three weeks after I got it and I've had to send it to Switzerland twice for a warranty fix.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:10 am
by KZMNT
PirateJohn wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:18 pm I have serious buyer's remorse for my CM200EI. It crapped out three weeks after I got it and I've had to send it to Switzerland twice for a warranty fix.
Did you ever learn what was the reason for its malfunction?

Re: CM200ei or p85

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:39 pm
by Dmaryakh
Several P85 are due to arrive with next FWB shipment in a few weeks time. Those are not yet listed on our site (as a final price is not set yet) and are expected to sell fast. Contact Sport Shooting Depot to reserve one.

PS - will have both 5 shot and 1 shot mags in stock for these.

PPS - also have freshly manufactured AW93 arriving really soon

Re:

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:05 am
by PirateJohn
KZMNT wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:10 am
PirateJohn wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:18 pm I have serious buyer's remorse for my CM200EI. It crapped out three weeks after I got it and I've had to send it to Switzerland twice for a warranty fix.
Did you ever learn what was the reason for its malfunction?
It's still in Switzerland