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MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:09 pm
by siordian1
Ok, lets get the New Year off to a good start.

My goal for the year? , get above 550 and stay there. How about you?

You know the drill, shoot as often as you like, post your scores and how you shot, the good the bad and the ugly.

Thanks

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:37 pm
by FWB_700_Alu
Jan 2020?!?

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:42 pm
by GeraldS1
45 M
Walther LP400 carbon
Umarex pellets
Sub 6 o clock

559 = 97 91 91 93 93 94

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:50 am
by RyanA
573 97-96-95-93-98-94
Morini 162EI
CMP Vogel Match Pellets
Sub-6 hold (3 or 4 ring)
M-48
Suis HS-10 target at 10m

My scores this month and last were only 1 point off, but truth be told I had dipped down about 15 points for the last few weeks. I had to work hard to diagnose what was going wrong, making heavy use of SCATT. It seems I was struggling with the normal culprits either separately, or both at the same time:

1. Not focusing consistently on the front sight, but rather on the target (even if just for a split second) resulting in misaligned sights. Scatt would often show me a trace that was not centered on the middle of the target for the last 1 second or so (yellow portion of the trace is <=1 second, blue is<=250ms).
Poor sight alignment (Front sight too high):
PoorSightAlignment.JPG
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2. Not trusting my hold, meaning that I even though I may have had my focus squarely on my front sight perfectly aligned in the rear sight, my subconscious was still seeing the target moving around and I was chasing it, resulting in poor trigger control. Scatt would show me trace centered on the middle of the target, but with a sudden jerk out into the 7 or 8 ring in the last 250ms(blue line). I had to re-train myself to get my sights aligned down in the aiming area and start smoothly pressing the trigger in order to get a surprise break, despite the normal wobble. This is counter-intuitive, but it sure does seem to work.
Poor trigger control:
BadTriggerControl.JPG
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Both (front sight low and right, plus jerked trigger):
PoorSightAlignAndPoorTrigger.JPG
PoorSightAlignAndPoorTrigger.JPG (40.08 KiB) Viewed 6177 times
This shot is a good demonstration of how trusting your hold works. Here I was all the way out into the 8-ring within the last second and my brain and eye certainly noticed, but I stayed focused on the front sight, smoothly pressing the trigger and trusting the hold, resulting in a nice shot despite that wobbling.
TrustingTheHold.JPG
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My screen shots look different than normal Scatt because I am using a program called ShotAnalyzer that combines the output from Scatt with the output from my electronic target. The advantage is that the "ball of yarn" is automatically moved to the true location of the shot.
Ryan

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:08 pm
by VonKasta
RyanA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:50 am 573 97-96-95-93-98-94
Morini 162EI
CMP Vogel Match Pellets
Sub-6 hold (3 or 4 ring)
M-48
Suis HS-10 target at 10m

My scores this month and last were only 1 point off, but truth be told I had dipped down about 15 points for the last few weeks. I had to work hard to diagnose what was going wrong, making heavy use of SCATT. It seems I was struggling with the normal culprits either separately, or both at the same time:

1. Not focusing consistently on the front sight, but rather on the target (even if just for a split second) resulting in misaligned sights. Scatt would often show me a trace that was not centered on the middle of the target for the last 1 second or so (yellow portion of the trace is <=1 second, blue is<=250ms).
Poor sight alignment (Front sight too high):
PoorSightAlignment.JPG

2. Not trusting my hold, meaning that I even though I may have had my focus squarely on my front sight perfectly aligned in the rear sight, my subconscious was still seeing the target moving around and I was chasing it, resulting in poor trigger control. Scatt would show me trace centered on the middle of the target, but with a sudden jerk out into the 7 or 8 ring in the last 250ms(blue line). I had to re-train myself to get my sights aligned down in the aiming area and start smoothly pressing the trigger in order to get a surprise break, despite the normal wobble. This is counter-intuitive, but it sure does seem to work.
Poor trigger control:
BadTriggerControl.JPG

Both (front sight low and right, plus jerked trigger):
PoorSightAlignAndPoorTrigger.JPG

This shot is a good demonstration of how trusting your hold works. Here I was all the way out into the 8-ring within the last second and my brain and eye certainly noticed, but I stayed focused on the front sight, smoothly pressing the trigger and trusting the hold, resulting in a nice shot despite that wobbling.
TrustingTheHold.JPG

My screen shots look different than normal Scatt because I am using a program called ShotAnalyzer that combines the output from Scatt with the output from my electronic target. The advantage is that the "ball of yarn" is automatically moved to the true location of the shot.
Ryan
Interesting post, thanks for sharing.

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:34 am
by McMadCow
Lots to think about in that post. I'm glad to have that sort of insight in this thread. Thanks for posting!

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:32 pm
by FWB_700_Alu
553 10x

93 3x
95 2x
87 1x (Group the size of a Quarter but all to the right)
92 1x
95 3x
91

LP10
RWS R10 Match
55 (1965)
American made - Living in Germany

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:37 pm
by Coolmeester
1st competition after 9 months πŸ€“

CM200
Sub6

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:35 pm
by Azmodan
552 (93-90-93-93-91-92)
Feinwerkbau 100
10m ISSF rules
sub 6 hold
H&N Sport 8.18gr
paper targets
M 42
Screenshot_20210113-202812.png

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:32 pm
by Tangohammerli
558 9x
93, 95, 93, 92, 91, 94
Pardini K12
Vogel match
10m/paper
Sub 6
55/M
USA

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:34 pm
by Azmodan
563 (92-95-96-92-93-95)
Feinwerkbau 100
10m ISSF rules
sub 6 hold
H&N Sport 8.18gr
paper targets
M 42
Screenshot_20210118-201056.png

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:35 pm
by F/V Icy Swan
493
81 82 83 84 85 78

Steyr LP10
CMP Vogel Merlin
M69

I do expect the bailiffs

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2021

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:17 pm
by siordian1
Ok, I was off by a year, who's counting??

Rover would be proud. I was going to shot my usual afternoon match. I got off 10 shots when my tank ran out. I left the adapter at the range, crap. I was going to just dry fire then I remembered,

I HAVE A PARDINI K58!!

I dug that old pistol out and started shooting, first 20 shots were crap, but then it got better.

I shot 6, 10 shot cards, one with 6, tens, another with 5 tens. overall score of 538. Not bad for a pistol I have not shot in 2 years.

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:31 am
by Rover
"Not bad for a pistol I have not shot in 2 years."

Neener, neener, I told ya so! Imagine what you'll do when you get your shit together.

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:47 pm
by rec4309
540
Pardini K12
Sub 6
finally starting to pay attention to the front sight.

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:52 am
by DWood
546 - (89, 92, 89, 92, 94, 90)

Hammerli AP20
10m ISSF rules
sub 6 hold
RWS meisterkugeln
paper targets
M 36

I just started modifying my grip a bit. It’s more comfortable and seems more steady, so now I think I need to start playing with weight and balance.

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:38 pm
by brent375hh
567. It's as good as I am going to shoot this month.
Same LP10, RWS R10, 57 years of age. ISSF.

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:06 pm
by GeraldS1
GeraldS1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:42 pm 45 M
Walther LP400 carbon
Umarex pellets
Sub 6 o clock

559 = 97 91 91 93 93 94
Slight improvement for me this month
560 = 95 97 90 92 93 94

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:52 pm
by bootneckbob
Gone downhill after a long Xmas break. 528, 537 and tonight 546 with a terrible last shot. Guess which one I'm posting?!

546 (92, 93, 91, 91, 91, 88)
Walther LP400
10m ISSF rules
Sub 6 hold
RWS Geko
M48

Re: MONTHLY AP LEAGUE JAN. 2020

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:19 am
by Dr.Don
10m paper
RW Basic pellets
Morini 162MI
By the rules.

83, 90-2x, 88-2x, 80-1x, 87-2x, 80 = 508-7x