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What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:19 pm
by Scrench
The black synthetic grip on my Walther LP400 Club needs help, but what do you use to build up a plastic grip that won't destroy it? Need a moldable putty substance that will harden as it dries. Will Bondo work?

Thanks,
Richard

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:34 pm
by deboom_j
Bondo would probably work.

Otherwise something like this maybe:

http://www.jbweld.com/collections/epoxy ... poxy-putty

Check the local hardware store, they may have it or something like it. The JB weld stuff is supposed to have a 25 min open time, which should be enough. I'd put on a little, then a little more, etc, rather than a huge blob that needs to be sanded down. If the color bugs you then paint it after you get it to fit.

Either way I'd make sure to clean the grip with alcohol or acetone (be careful with acetone, it might dissolve the plastic), to make sure it's clean and that you get a good bond. Maybe even scratch the plastic with some coarse sand paper, so the putty has something to key into.

John

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:03 pm
by Scrench
Hmmm,

John, that's a great idea but the product says "Does not adhere to polyethylene, polypropylene or some other plastics." I guess the question now is what kind of plastic is a synthetic grip made out of?

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:44 pm
by deboom_j
Well here's some ideas of how to check it.

http://www.northwestpolymers.ca/index.p ... view&id=18

Burning your grip may not sound enticing, but if you did it on the inside, or on an area you intend to fill it wouldn't be noticable.

I'd take the grips off first and look for any letters/labels that may be molded in.


John

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:32 pm
by Scrench
Wrote an inquiry to Walther, Mark emailed me back the next day, and is checking on exactly what it is made out of.

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:26 am
by mikeyj
JB Weld is steel filled and can't easily be worked with hand tools once hardened. I'd suggest one of the wood-filled epoxy putties,

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:56 am
by left360
https://sugru.com/

Bought it through Amazon.

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:21 am
by Rover
I would try one of the "kneadable" epoxies from the hardware store. I'd buy the cheapest one, forcing a thin coat HARD into the grip before applying any bigger amounts. It's easily worked and painted (if you care). WD40 will remove the residue from your hand.

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:57 pm
by Scrench
The Sugru ad says it dries like rubber. Is it flexible when dry or stiff?

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:13 pm
by deadeyedick
If it dries like rubber it should have similar flexibility characteristics........

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:53 pm
by Scrench
True, but there is soft and hard rubber, like a bicycle tire inner tube compared to a car tire tread. I'd just like the man who tried it explain the consistency once it's dry. If it's hard enough to be gripped without changing it's shape, it might be worth a try. Still haven't heard back from Walther yet about what type of plastic the grip is made out of.

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:42 pm
by left360
It dries like hard rubber. Very, very little flex. Carves very well after hardening, sanding, not so much. Carves better than sanding so that maybe a consideration on how you want to do your fit fine tuning. Cures hard over night, seems to be more or less fully cured after a day or so. I've had a fair bit on my grip for over 2 years, 10,000+ rounds, with no issues. You can add more layers to it. Supposedly, you can heat it up to remove it, but I haven't done that yet.

Steve

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:29 am
by Chris
use Quikwood

Re: What to use to Build up a Synthetic Grip?

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:06 pm
by Scrench
After realizing this grip is just too small to begin with, I'm going to get a regular walnut 3D grip, either from Walther or Rink. Thanks for all of the replies, and I almost took the plunge with Loctite repair putty, but didn't.