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Pardini K12

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:21 pm
by Reinhamre
Is a Pardini K12 the same today as 2012, part from tubes are heavier?

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:28 pm
by Leon
No - also improvements in the trigger mechanism, and the latest grip looks better as well..

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:17 pm
by cloudswimmer
Reinhamre wrote:Is a Pardini K12 the same today as 2012, part from tubes are heavier?
It's got cosmetic changes too, the bolt is now black with 'Absorber' written on it (so now 'Absorber' is written twice on the same side of the gun), the 'made in Italy' font is bigger and ....ehhh.... more modern, the plate the cylinder butts up against is now black as well, and the cylinder is a bright white....so bright it was blown out in the pic Pardini Italy sent me last week. If you want a pic PM me your email and I'll send it to you. I personally was having a real hard time last week choosing to get either a 162 EI or a K12, both guns have won World Cup finals, but after I got the pics Pardini Italy sent me of the latest redesign my mind was instantly made up, but I'm a gun collector primarily and not a competitive shooter like most here, either gun would always easily out shoot me. You may personally dig what Pardini did, but I didn't, very subjective obviously, ymmv.

Chris

P.S. the 'tubes' are now back to the original lighter design, only the color is different.

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:39 pm
by wasatch
How has the trigger been changed?

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:41 am
by Reinhamre
I have been offered a NIB K12 at a "reduced price", but tubes are only good for ten years so half the value of the tubes has nearly passed away. Furthermore, the second hand value is reduced.

From what I learn from your answers the pistol has also changed, to the better I hope.

A mere 500$ may not be enough to make up for the difference.

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:55 am
by cloudswimmer
Reinhamre wrote:I have been offered a NIB K12 at a "reduced price", but tubes are only good for ten years so half the value of the tubes has nearly passed away. Furthermore, the second hand value is reduced.

From what I learn from your answers the pistol has also changed, to the better I hope.

A mere 500$ may not be enough to make up for the difference.
Not sure where on the globe you're at, But Pardini USA is selling K12's for US $150.00 off through the Christmas season.

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:32 pm
by therider
150$?????????
On which planet do you live???? LOL
I'll buy 10 of them!

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:34 pm
by therider
Reinhamre wrote:I have been offered a NIB K12 at a "reduced price", but tubes are only good for ten years so half the value of the tubes has nearly passed away. Furthermore, the second hand value is reduced.

From what I learn from your answers the pistol has also changed, to the better I hope.

A mere 500$ may not be enough to make up for the difference.
Are they usually longer than 10y in US?

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:44 pm
by cloudswimmer
therider wrote:150$?????????
On which planet do you live???? LOL
I'll buy 10 of them!
The post says $150.00 off, not $150.00

Quote:Not sure where on the globe you're at, But Pardini USA is selling K12's for US $150.00 off through the Christmas season.

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:48 pm
by therider
Sorry, missed the "off"

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:02 am
by schauckis
The weight of the tubes has changed?

Didn't know that!
Can anyone inform me as to the weight difference?

This is a major consideration for me. I now shoot the K2S Air, and I'm borrowing a friend's K12 Absorber.
The K12 weights about 60 grams more which also makes it heavier than the factory specification indicates.
They're both 990g according to the spec, but the electronic scale claimed 998 and 1060g, respectively.

- Lars/Finland

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:51 pm
by BEA
I suggest trying a short cylinder on the K12 if you want to change the balance.

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:17 pm
by therider
Or even buy the short k12... It has any way the same length of sights as the lp10 or 162ei

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:58 am
by kevinweiho
therider wrote:Or even buy the short k12... It has any way the same length of sights as the lp10 or 162ei
Are you sure that the K12 short has the SAME LENGTH of sight radius as the LP10 or 162EI? It's hard to believe a kurtz model having the same length as a standard model.

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:09 am
by Tycho
Yes. My K12 Short has 34cm sight radius, and my full length (but modded comp) 162EI 33cm. Just check where the rear sight is positioned.

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:16 am
by kevinweiho
Tycho, the specs on the Pardini site is more or less correct, it states the K12 junior having a radius of 310-350 mm (31 cm.-35 cm.), the Morini 162EI has up to 410 mm (41 cm.) and the LP10, 316-365 mm (31.6 cm-36.5 cm).

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:24 am
by Tycho
There you go... more than long enough for me, the target is shaking all over the place even like this :-D

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:35 am
by therider
162ei standards are exactly 350. I think you go to 410 with the extension.

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:14 am
by therider
The only misleading information is that of the Steyr web page. The standard length is 365, and that can be made longer by sliding the rear sight backwards.

Re: Pardini K12

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:01 am
by kevinweiho
Just checked my LP10, with the rear sight set the furthest back, it measures 383 mm (38.3 cm).