TargetTalk

How many shots require to maque a click on the sight?
assuming that the shots are not where you feel.

It really depends, are we talking you are at a 10.1 or a 4? If it's the first one, a single click in the correct direction isn't a big deal as even if it's not the sight and instead the hold you probably aren't going to materially affect things. On the other hand if you are making a large sight change to swing across 2+ scoring rings, if it turns out it was you and not the sights you have a problem now. If I have unlimited sighters, I'll do 3 shots before I'll consider a sight change if it's off my call. If I have the luxury of time and ammo (say during practice and not a match) I'll usually do 5 and find the center of the group and adjust.

During a match I use the technique from small bore rifle, and I'll make an adjustment every shot if the round is off call by a reasonable margin (say barely outside the 10, and I thought it was a solid 10). Over time, you will have the effect of biasing the grouping towards the center of your hold. If I however call a solid 10 and have a 5, I wont touch the sights as that should NOT be the guns fault.

-Jenrick

Any doubt, move them appropriately is how I operate. Don't move often any more than one or two clicks as it would be more of a shooters failing rather than sight plane adjustment.

This all assuming the sights were broadly setup prior to shooting the match.

I find that I pretty well kill any doubt about my sights by adjusting early.

NanoZ. wrote:How many shots require to maque a click on the sight?
assuming that the shots are not where you feel.

It depends on your skill level.

For beginners it is usual to shot a 10-15 group, that is, pointing at the same place everytime, and then adjust based on the center of the group (disregard clear bad shots).
Intermediate shooters can make an adjustment based on a 3-5 shots group.
Experienced shooters adjust if they called the shot correctly and it is off in the target.

Dont be afraid to move your sights, you can always click them back!

Hope this helps

Thank you for your answer.
I wait al least tree shots to make a click.
One more question, in your personal opinion which score are regular for beginners, which for intermediate and which for experienced?. I think experienced are 560 to up.

It's not really about score...

... it's related to post count. :D

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But seriously you don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

Google Pistol Australia grading list as a matter of interest.

Competing with Bickar for Rover's job? :-)

Adjusting your sights should be closely connected with calling your shots. If you shoot a 7:00 seven, was it because your sights were off, or because you jerked the trigger? Until you can tell the difference, changing your sights is largely a waste of time. As long as the shots are going where you think the pistol is pointed when the bullet/pellet leaves the barrel, you should be working on technique, not fiddling with your sights. If ALL of your shots are in a small cluster offset from center in the same direction, AND you can't detect any significant deflection in that direction when the pistol fires, then a sight adjustment is probably warranted.

I change my sights one or two clicks a year, if that. When I do, it's usually on the basis of an entire match worth of shots, not what is going on in any single target. If the shots aren't going into the 10 ring, it's not because my sights are off. Seeing my sights well enough to precisely call my shots isn't as easy as it once was, but I can usually tell +/- one scoring ring & +/- 1 hour of angular position even on a bad day. When my eyes were younger, I could often see the difference between a 9:00 ten & a 3:00 ten. That makes knowing when to make a sight adjustment pretty easy.

The last few times I've had serious trouble calling my shots, it was because the front sight had come loose on the pistols.

NanoZ. wrote:Thank you for your answer.
I wait al least three shots to make a click.
One more question, in your personal opinion which score are regular for beginners, which for intermediate and which for experienced?. I think experienced are 560 to up.

It's really hard to put a number on the beginner and intermediate stages.
It's has much more to do with the perception of what is a good shot that the actual score.
But to simplify a bit let's say that and intermediate shooter should hold the black, even on bad shots.
By the time your average scores are in the 560, I would call you an experienced shooter.

There are three variables that may require a sight change:
1- Light, in different indoor ranges you may require some adjusting due to the lights. Same goes for outdoor conditions. This varies from shooter to shooter.
2- You eyes. Being mostly made out of water, your hydration level, eye fatigue, temperature, etc. will all play a part. Again, this varies from shooter to shooter.
3- Ammo. Different ammo will impact the target in different places. Usually up/down (more or less "bang"), but some may require one or two clicks of windage also.

If you are not sure, move your sights changes based on three to five shot groups. The more shoots in the group the more "precise" the change in the sights will be.

Hope this helps