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What happened with Klimov at Benning WC
Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 12:02 pm
by PaulB
Did Klimov have a disallowed malfunction during his first two 8 second series? His target shows a 5 shot score of 50.
Re: What happened with Klimov at Benning WC
Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:38 pm
by Marc Orvin
Klimov had an illegal lift in his 8 second series. He was creeping up. He was yellow carded and had to repeat the series. However, he did not understand the jury and when it came time to repeat the series, he neither loaded or fired the series.
The jury member involved determined that since Klimov did not understand, he should have an opportunity to repeat the series. He shot another 50 on that series.
Now, along comes the German coach and protests the additional series on the basis of rule 8.1.2 - All athletes, team leaders and officials must be familiar with the ISSF Rules and must ensure that these Rules are enforced. It is the responsibility of each athlete to comply with the Rules.
The protest was not upheld, so the German coach took it to the Jury of Appeals. The Jury of Appeals sided with the German coach, so the extra series was disallowed.
Re: What happened with Klimov at Benning WC
Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 10:32 pm
by shaky hands
Thanks for the info. What a great sportsmanship moment.
Re: What happened with Klimov at Benning WC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 2:54 am
by Spencer
Marc Orvin wrote:... The Jury of Appeals sided with the German coach, so the extra series was disallowed.
'sided with'; or, did the Jury of Appeal do what they were supposed to do?
Re: What happened with Klimov at Benning WC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:08 am
by 97nick
I think I agree, he should have known the rules....
when you are shooting at that level you need to make sure you plan for things like that
Re: What happened with Klimov at Benning WC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 6:50 am
by Marc Orvin
Spencer wrote:Marc Orvin wrote:... The Jury of Appeals sided with the German coach, so the extra series was disallowed.
'sided with'; or, did the Jury of Appeal do what they were supposed to do?
Sorry Spencer. Poor choice of words. They did what they were supposed to do.
Re: What happened with Klimov at Benning WC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 6:53 am
by Marc Orvin
I think one issue is that all range commands, all over the world, are to be given in English. A lot of these folks understand words like "load," "unload" and "attention" and little else.
Re: What happened with Klimov at Benning WC
Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 12:13 pm
by nick marshall
shaky hands wrote:Thanks for the info. What a great sportsmanship moment.
Agree.
It's always easier to have no rules. ;0)
Re: What happened with Klimov at Benning WC
Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 12:39 pm
by shaky hands
nick marshall wrote:shaky hands wrote:Thanks for the info. What a great sportsmanship moment.
Agree.
It's always easier to have no rules. ;0)
False dichotomy.