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First night with the FAS604

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:59 pm
by ELPRESADOR
So I picked up a FAS604 at the weekend after a while of reading about 10m pistol - I needed something to do once the winter hit and I had to take my motorcycle off the road... so this is it.

Last night I built a 10m pulley system into the garden out the back of the garage and tonight I have my first real go (excluding yesturdays zeroing session.

I must say these "card" targets from ebay are crap! They just rip! Got 1000 fibre board bisley targets on the way, hopefully they are here tomorrow. I have a couple of bisley ones and they seemed much better when I tried those last night.

My first card

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Nothing to write home about - I noticed I was snatching the trigger a lot. So I read a few posts on here about dry firing and got my technique down much better. I was just snatching as I passed the target, I should know better from my rifle experience but oh well.

So this was the 2nd card

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I really took my time on this - made certain not to touch the trigger unless I felt the shot was a good one. Must have aborted more shots than I took but the improvement was great! Was very concious about my trigger technique. A big step in the right direction :D

Then disaster struck... on putting out card 3 the knot I used on my pulley system broke and I was not in the mood to fixed it, so the rest of my cards are shot at 7 yards - garage length.

Card 3 after a 7 yard rezero
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I was not happy with my body position, I could not settle. I was fighting all the time to keep on target. Again I was concentrating on trigger technique and aborting unless I felt the shot was a good one, but my position let me down.

Card 4:
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This time I was concentrating on body position - I spent a good 3/4 mins concentrating on this. Once I had my feet absolutely where they wanted them when I raised the gun it just floated towards the target naturally - I used some chalk to draw around my feet and made sure to mount the next card exactly where this one was.

Card 5: (5 shot - last one)
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I really tried hard here, it was my last card and my arm was getting tired and I was getting cold (need a garage heater... next purchase).

I made sure my feet were exactly in the same position as last time with the chalk lines and did my absolute best. I knew the cards tore up very easily so this time I taped some thin card to the back but it made little difference I think. I can't tell where the 5 shots landed but I felt really good on 4 of these and I knew one went high - I am pretty confident I got 4 in the 10 ring and one slightly high.

A nice note to end it on though! Very happy with this - hopefully I can keep pushing on. I will fix the pulley system tomorrow so I can shoot at 10m again.

Re: First night with the FAS604

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:37 pm
by deadeyedick
You will need to increase the fps until it cuts clean holes then assess the results. Congratulations.

Re: First night with the FAS604

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:49 am
by David Levene
ELPRESADOR wrote:I really took my time on this - made certain not to touch the trigger unless I felt the shot was a good one.
I presume that you didn't mean this.

Get your finger positioned on the trigger before you start your raise. If the 604's trigger has been adjusted correctly then you should be able to take up all of the free movement up to the let-off point and feel a definite stop there. Where you take up the movement depends on how confident you are (and how well the trigger has been adjusted) but I would suggest that you should be at the let-off stop within a second or so of arriving in your aiming area.

Although the 604 was never the fastest pistol around, do you know the last time that it was serviced properly. It is possible that you've got the worst targets ever made, but I would suspect that the gun is way down on velocity.

One other tip, nothing to do with shooting, can I suggest that you take smaller pictures; your comments get lost when mixed in with such large ones.

All in all though, very nice shooting.

Re: First night with the FAS604

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:15 am
by micken
Very good progression there. Both of my 604's are down on power compared with pcp's etc. You need much better quality targets and try the lightest possible pellets with a 4.49 or 4.48mm head size if possible.

Re: First night with the FAS604

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:03 am
by ELPRESADOR
deadeyedick wrote:You will need to increase the fps until it cuts clean holes then assess the results. Congratulations.
It's the targets 100%

I have not put the FAS on my chronograph yet but I did shoot the targets with my 12ftlbs rifle and they also tore up like this.

They are just crap targets from ebay. I had 6 Bisley targets that I used to zero on and they cut very clean holes compared to these. :)

Re: First night with the FAS604

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:05 am
by ELPRESADOR
David Levene wrote:
ELPRESADOR wrote:I really took my time on this - made certain not to touch the trigger unless I felt the shot was a good one.
I presume that you didn't mean this.

Get your finger positioned on the trigger before you start your raise. If the 604's trigger has been adjusted correctly then you should be able to take up all of the free movement up to the let-off point and feel a definite stop there. Where you take up the movement depends on how confident you are (and how well the trigger has been adjusted) but I would suggest that you should be at the let-off stop within a second or so of arriving in your aiming area.

Although the 604 was never the fastest pistol around, do you know the last time that it was serviced properly. It is possible that you've got the worst targets ever made, but I would suspect that the gun is way down on velocity.

One other tip, nothing to do with shooting, can I suggest that you take smaller pictures; your comments get lost when mixed in with such large ones.

All in all though, very nice shooting.
I worded it wrong - I held the trigger at the point of let off on the second stage - I would struggle to hit the 1 second let off without jerking but if I came off my aimpoint during this I aborted the shot and started again :)

I'll get a seal kit for it and see of it makes a difference but I really do think the targets are just crap

Re: First night with the FAS604

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:13 am
by Silvershooter
It's the targets 100%
Yes when my FAS was down on power and needing a reseal it still made clean holes in the Kruger cards.
Nice shooting.

Re: First night with the FAS604

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:29 am
by kevin
Hi i had some cheap cards and my FAS604 was ripping the card, so i started to get a better quality target card and the FAS604 was making nice little holes. I ues RWS R10 4.49 in my pistol. Anyway great progression and keep practising.

kevin

Re: First night with the FAS604

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:11 am
by rmca
ELPRESADOR wrote:They are just crap targets from ebay.
Put a piece of cardboard on the back of the target. That should help getting cleaner holes.