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Pardini Rapid Fire

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:32 am
by conradin
Does anyone know what is the difference between using a Pardini Rapid Fire SP vs the normal SP/Bullseye version when it comes to shooting B/E?
Other than short recoil, what is the disadvantage of using a rapid fire version as opposed to the regular or B/E version?

Re: Pardini Rapid Fire

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:31 pm
by trulyapostolic
I talked with the Pardini folks about this last year. The Bullseye model has a heavier bolt to delay the cycling of the action, they found their guns shot better by slowing the action a little. For 50 yard shooting you'll definitely want the bullseye model. The Rapid Fire model is for International RF matches not bullseye rapid fire strings.

Re: Pardini Rapid Fire

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:10 pm
by conradin
In that case the RP version will also work for STP then? As for accuracy, I doubt it will make much of a difference for the B/E 50 yards since it is for slow fire. Have they ever tested how inaccurate the RP version is in 50 yards, by measuring the grouping?

Re: Pardini Rapid Fire

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:46 pm
by Rover
We're all waiting for a test report on the one you're buying.

Re: Pardini Rapid Fire

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:25 am
by dronning
conradin wrote:... Have they ever tested how inaccurate the RP version is in 50 yards, by measuring the grouping?
Yes they have and it was a big enough difference that they decide to produce the bullseye version.

"In order to address the needs of the Bullseye shooters at the 50 yards line, we did some tests and found that the heavier bolt gives 17-20 mm group compare to 25-28 mm with the Sport pistol bolt. It is not a big difference but we asked and a lot of BE shooters said that this will be preferable so we did it. Our goal has always been to listen and address shooters needs and ideas. "

There are also some differences in the frame.

This was on the 22lr model.

- Dave

Re: Pardini Rapid Fire

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:40 pm
by Rover
"In order to address the needs of the Bullseye shooters at the 50 yards line, we did some tests and found that the heavier bolt gives 17-20 mm group compare to 25-28 mm with the Sport pistol bolt. It is not a big difference but we asked and a lot of BE shooters said that this will be preferable so we did it. Our goal has always been to listen and address shooters needs and ideas. "

So the largest group was about an inch! When have you ever met a pistol shooter who wouldn't be delighted with that at 50 yards?

Re: Pardini Rapid Fire

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:13 pm
by dronning
Rover wrote:So the largest group was about an inch! When have you ever met a pistol shooter who wouldn't be delighted with that at 50 yards?
Agreed but there are some guys right now developing loads for the 32acp trying to keep them under 1/2". Just like with 22 rifles when you start to get the group size bug it's almost as bad as the bullseye bug. LOL

- Dave

Re: Pardini Rapid Fire

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:31 pm
by ghillieman
I shoot an older Pardini SP, with the lighter weight bolt (as compared to the BE model).
I have tested it off the bench at 50 and put 10 shots in 3/8".
That's pretty dang accurate to me.
Ammo was Aguila Rifle Match @ 1080fps, very light recoil.

I thought the BE model was because most BE shooters were using higher velocity ammunition, hence the heavier bolt on the BE model.

Re: Pardini Rapid Fire

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:23 pm
by conradin
Does that mean NEITHER the SP nor the SP RF model is good at 50 yards compare with the B/E model?