Approach in the standing position.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:44 pm
Okay … This old time over the course (OTC) shooter needs some help from the Olympic crowd...
For many years I’ve shot a Walther LG210 SSP air rifle as a trainer for the standing phase of highpower service rifle shooting. That’s fired at 200 yards on a target with a 3-inch X-ring, a 7-inch 10-ring and completing the black a 13-inch 9-ring. The course of fire is two sighting and twenty record shots in twenty-two minutes.
Since this is shot out of doors in wind, the Olympic style passive hold does not work well. The OTC hold needs to have more tension to react and counteract the effects of the wind on the body and rifle. The firing points are never really completely level, and the target heights relative to the firing line differ from range to range as well. So refining a perfect body position that correlates with a perfect NPA/Sight Picture is never going to happen.
I was trained, and have always shot the standing phase by ensuring my position centers my NPA on the bull. Then the rifle is loaded and mounted. As the final stage of the mount is accomplished (coming down to the target I have always approached the bull from 9 o’clock stopping when the post is at the correct height. Then I allow the post to move over to the bull as my position settles toward and into NPA. This way I can see the number boards just before they are blocked by the front sight, and more importantly nail my elevation down prior to the final settling into my NPA hold. This way I only need to deal with right to left movement as elevation has already been obtained.
When it goes well, the post is where I want it as I settle into my NPA and the shot is fired. The only exception to this is if there is a very strong left to right wind, then I would approach from 3 o’clock so that I’m settling “into the wind” as this helps from moving past the bull and having to come back in from the other side (which is what I do most times rather than break down and remount for another pass).
Sorry for the long background … I assume many here already know all of this but just in case I put it up, I hope it’s helpful.
Now to my dilemma.
I’ve been working for the last three months or so learning the ISSF game, focusing on it in its own right. I’ve been training by approaching the bull from 12 o’clock, which is what all the literature that I read states to do. I’m having a very difficult time controlling the “drop” of the gun as I settle into my NPA position. Invariably I overshoot (undershoot?) the bull and now have to stop the gun and move the sight back up to acquire the proper sight picture. I then find myself bobbing up and down over the bull, never really getting the “bounce” under control before my hold deteriorates.
I also am all over the place right and left. Since you have no visual clues to your alignment right to left until the barrel has been lowered to almost the shooting position I’m finding I need to correct side to side displacement at the same time I’m trying to control the bobbing up and down.
So at last … here is the question.
Why approach from the top?
It seems to me that an approach from the side allows one to eliminate one alignment variable at a time rather than dealing with two at once. I can’t imagine someone’s position being so solid that they don’t need to worry about right / left alignment. Am I wrong here … do I need to work my hold that much more?
Obviously I’m missing something, I’m sure the top shooters in the ISSF type of game have figured this all out and have a solid reason … I just haven’t found it. So if someone could point me in the right direction I’m happy to do the research.
By the way, if it’s helpful. I was a Master level service rifle shooter, so I could clean the standing stage with high X-count most days. I’m currently shooting my air rifle indoors on 6m targets printed with Ian Pellant’s software and by my math the reduction of bull size is proper for the range. I can for the most part hold an 8 on the 6m target coming in from the top. I do better approaching from the side but have forced myself to NOT do this very much, as I really want to train in the “proper” way and get this new approach figured out.
So … long-winded, sorry. Any ideas or help would be appreciated.
For many years I’ve shot a Walther LG210 SSP air rifle as a trainer for the standing phase of highpower service rifle shooting. That’s fired at 200 yards on a target with a 3-inch X-ring, a 7-inch 10-ring and completing the black a 13-inch 9-ring. The course of fire is two sighting and twenty record shots in twenty-two minutes.
Since this is shot out of doors in wind, the Olympic style passive hold does not work well. The OTC hold needs to have more tension to react and counteract the effects of the wind on the body and rifle. The firing points are never really completely level, and the target heights relative to the firing line differ from range to range as well. So refining a perfect body position that correlates with a perfect NPA/Sight Picture is never going to happen.
I was trained, and have always shot the standing phase by ensuring my position centers my NPA on the bull. Then the rifle is loaded and mounted. As the final stage of the mount is accomplished (coming down to the target I have always approached the bull from 9 o’clock stopping when the post is at the correct height. Then I allow the post to move over to the bull as my position settles toward and into NPA. This way I can see the number boards just before they are blocked by the front sight, and more importantly nail my elevation down prior to the final settling into my NPA hold. This way I only need to deal with right to left movement as elevation has already been obtained.
When it goes well, the post is where I want it as I settle into my NPA and the shot is fired. The only exception to this is if there is a very strong left to right wind, then I would approach from 3 o’clock so that I’m settling “into the wind” as this helps from moving past the bull and having to come back in from the other side (which is what I do most times rather than break down and remount for another pass).
Sorry for the long background … I assume many here already know all of this but just in case I put it up, I hope it’s helpful.
Now to my dilemma.
I’ve been working for the last three months or so learning the ISSF game, focusing on it in its own right. I’ve been training by approaching the bull from 12 o’clock, which is what all the literature that I read states to do. I’m having a very difficult time controlling the “drop” of the gun as I settle into my NPA position. Invariably I overshoot (undershoot?) the bull and now have to stop the gun and move the sight back up to acquire the proper sight picture. I then find myself bobbing up and down over the bull, never really getting the “bounce” under control before my hold deteriorates.
I also am all over the place right and left. Since you have no visual clues to your alignment right to left until the barrel has been lowered to almost the shooting position I’m finding I need to correct side to side displacement at the same time I’m trying to control the bobbing up and down.
So at last … here is the question.
Why approach from the top?
It seems to me that an approach from the side allows one to eliminate one alignment variable at a time rather than dealing with two at once. I can’t imagine someone’s position being so solid that they don’t need to worry about right / left alignment. Am I wrong here … do I need to work my hold that much more?
Obviously I’m missing something, I’m sure the top shooters in the ISSF type of game have figured this all out and have a solid reason … I just haven’t found it. So if someone could point me in the right direction I’m happy to do the research.
By the way, if it’s helpful. I was a Master level service rifle shooter, so I could clean the standing stage with high X-count most days. I’m currently shooting my air rifle indoors on 6m targets printed with Ian Pellant’s software and by my math the reduction of bull size is proper for the range. I can for the most part hold an 8 on the 6m target coming in from the top. I do better approaching from the side but have forced myself to NOT do this very much, as I really want to train in the “proper” way and get this new approach figured out.
So … long-winded, sorry. Any ideas or help would be appreciated.