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what type of Walther is this

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:47 am
by yana
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Its said to be a 100 jr jubilee version
Looks like a nickelplated action
Weird straight bolt

But is this a kkm, a kk200..
What years were those made and is the bolt action reliable

Walther

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:03 am
by ADC59
Hello:

I believe this is a Walther UIT-E Universal. It is based on the Walther KKM action. But it has an electronic trigger. The stock is very similar to or identical to the Walther UIT-Match Universal.

I don't think very many of them were made. Unsure about how available spare parts are for the electronic trigger.

Alan Carey
ADC59

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:17 am
by Tim S
It's certainly a UIT-E, but I thought this had a very different action to the KK-UIT. The action is cocked with a side lever (like a 10m PCP) not a rotary bolt, and there was a five shot magazine.

I have a review of this rifle from the early 1980s. I don't think it was in production for long.

It's certainly not a KK200, this is a conventional bolt action, just in a square receiver.

Tim

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:21 am
by sandy22
It's a Walther BV.

The action is pretty much as Tim described, except I don't think they ever had magazines.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:33 am
by yana
Thnx.
So its an oldie than? Beginning 80s?
Is the sidelever action reliable?
Doesnt appear to have a magazine..

Walther

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:58 am
by RobinC
Don't know the model number but the only one I've seen was in the Walther museum (during a visit a month ago) and its very interesting.
The action is quite complex and not just a straight bolt with a lever like a biathlon rifle more like a side levered martini-ish type action, a really clever design.
They made a small production quantity of them in the '80s, there were no problems and they shot very well, but never caught on, probably as they were too different. Perhaps a bit too ahead of their time?
I've emailed my factory contact for more info, so I'll add that when he comes back.
Robin

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:52 pm
by yana
Thnx! That should be interesting!

BV

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:58 am
by RobinC
It is definately a Walther BV, I spoke to a man yesterday who is very knowledgeable on them, they are quite rare but apparantly one has also just turned up in the UK at a dealer.
They were a form of falling block and I'm waiting for him to find the breakdown drawing from his archives. He said that Sarah Cooper used one quite successfully in the '80's and that Malcolm wanted Walther to move the action back which would have been quite simple and mean't it would have been very easy to load with minimal movement but they were not interested. There was a small production run but they did not catch on, (too far ahead of their time?) I was very impressed with the one I saw, a lovely action. They were made in mechanical and electronic trigger form. If I get any more I'll drop it on here.
Robin

Re: BV

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:14 pm
by sandy22
RobinC wrote: They were made in mechanical and electronic trigger form.
Was there an electr(on)ic ignition version?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:19 am
by Paul
I came across a pic of this Walther action on a French website: http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.ph ... u=13256233

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:45 am
by RobinC
Sandy
I don't know what you mean ! It came with either a mechanical trigger or an electronically operated trigger, I suspect similar to the Walther free pistol trigger of the same era, but I don't have the drawing yet so can't tell you any more.
Paul
Yes that's the one! That's a BV.
I'm told they shot very well, but did not sell so they dropped it, as I've said probably too far ahead of its time.
Robin

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:11 am
by yana
Paul, great pic! Was that carbon shroud original?
Unfortunately, the 1 I saw 4 sale, in the openingpost, has already been sold..

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:39 pm
by sandy22
RobinC wrote:Sandy
I don't know what you mean !
I had it in my head that someone had tried electric or electronic (as distinct from striker) ignition for .22 rimfire around that time and that this was the gun it was done in.

On further consideration I now think "someone" was Krico, not Walther.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:39 pm
by yana
Found another 1 of the above Walther 4 sale.
This, however, ís an E version, with E trigger.
According to the seller, it doesnt work though (the E trigger).
Are these triggers easy to work on? Are there still parts available for it?
Or is it too great a risk to buy it with this defect?