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Morini 162 E manual - in English. Got it - Thanks JiriK!
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:40 am
by NikNak
I was able to score a nice Morini 162 EA (German) with a fixed cylinder. The only problem is that I don't read German & the manual is in German ....
Does anyone have a Morini 162 EA or EI with an English manual that can be scanned for me?
The 162 EA manual is pretty redimentary, so if anyone wants a scanned German version .... I can oblidge.
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:27 am
by David Levene
Others, like me, will be confused by this request.
I thought the 162EI had a removeable cylinder.
If that's what you want then you can get the manual straight from the
Morini web site.
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:31 am
by Tycho
What do you need a manual for? There's nothing to adjust on a 162 anyway ;-) Or learn some german, it's not THAT difficult - when we buy something from the states, we don't expect the literature to be in anything else than english, either.
If the frame says "EA", it should have the removable cylinder. But that's a five minute operation, somebody probably switched the parts with a 162E.
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:37 am
by NikNak
Tycho wrote:Or learn some german, it's not THAT difficult - when we buy something from the states, we don't expect the literature to be in anything else than english, either.
If the frame says "EA", it should have the removable cylinder. But that's a five minute operation, somebody probably switched the parts with a 162E.
My parent's came from Nederland. They have an issue with the Germans that goes back a few years. :-)
I have been told that to convert from the fixed to a re-movable cylinder, the regulator must be upgraded and the cylinders are $175US ea ... I'll shoot it as is, but I would like to know how to discharge the cylinder when at rest. Not sure I want to just push on the valve.
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:41 am
by LukeP
Mail Morini.ch, they offer you all support you need.
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:59 am
by yana
The old 162 E has a fixed cilinder. The new IE has a removeable one.
Hi I'm from Holland as well.
Try a google search. They're all over the new those downloads usually.
Or, indeed, looks at the morini site. Maybe they have a download section.
I would change to removeable cilinders anyway. Not worth the $$
I think, pressing the valve will be yr only option. As shooting it empty isnt an option, as the safety will kick in at 80-90 bars. (mine is an old 162 E as well)
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:58 am
by Tycho
No practical way to empty the cylinder on the 162E, AFAIK.
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:29 am
by Rover
Why would you want to empty the cylinder? I don't know of anyone who does that.
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:51 am
by NikNak
Rover wrote:Why would you want to empty the cylinder? I don't know of anyone who does that.
Ruby & Art Fox mentioned the need to dump the cylinders at the end of the day. They may not have been speaking about the Morini at the time, but I don't have an English manual to confim. My Hammerli 480 provides a bleeder with the unit for that purpose and in the manual it says to empty the cylinder when not in use.
I have been told the cylinders are good for around 200 shots & I don't know how many people actually train/compete whith that many shots in a day .... see my confusion?
I have also seen similar statements regarding removing the cylinders from my AHG 8002 rifle when not in use..... something about extended pressure on the regulator. If I recall, Pilk has a similar statement on their website regarding leaving full cylinders attached to the guns when not in use.
Since I travel for work, my training is sporatic and thus they can sit for weeks, months before I get back to them.
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:25 pm
by David Levene
NikNak wrote:Ruby & Art Fox mentioned the need to dump the cylinders at the end of the day.
My 162EI is over 10 years old.
Since I bought it, the only times it has been without a charged cylinder for more than 10-15 seconds have been when it has been away for service.
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:33 pm
by David M
Fixed tank Morini's date back to the mid-late 90's, you may need to concider an upgrade to a new removable tank simply because of its age.
The conversion is fairly simlpe, contact Morini.
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:49 pm
by Tycho
I've never emptied a cylinder in my life, and there's a good dozen pistols lying around here. So I wouldn't worry. And with the 162E fixed cylinder, at least the manometer won't blow out. So if you're not shooting competitions (where the 20 year rule might be an issue) and you don't need the comfort of the removable cylinder, no need to upgrade. Or you could traing up to 590, go to a world cup and get the parts for free from Morini ;-)
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:07 pm
by Rover
I think your last sentence is the most appropriate.
Go NikNak!!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:23 pm
by NikNak
Tycho wrote: So if you're not shooting competitions (where the 20 year rule might be an issue) and you don't need the comfort of the removable cylinder, no need to upgrade. Or you could traing up to 590, go to a world cup and get the parts for free from Morini ;-)
I guess i won't need Morini to give me a convertable unit until 2014 or so .... :-)
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:17 pm
by JiriK
I have CM162E with fixed cylinder. Pistol was bought new in sept. 1993 and it came with english manual. I have a scanner too, so pm email address if a scan is needed.
Conversion kit to removable cylinder costs 400€ here.. It´s a lot less than the price of new pistol, but I´m going to buy a new pistol anyways.
(Here´s one used 162e for sale :D )
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:39 am
by yana
I dont bleed ány pcp (or co2 for that matter) when not in use.
Ónly time I bleed, is when I have to sent a pistol off for repair (or when its sold).
I agree that filling the E can be more hassle cause you have to turn the whole pistol, but a QR fitting can cure that so I've been told.
As long as yr pistol doesnt leak, keep it as is.
When it start leaking, all seals should be replaced, you cán do it than.
I didnt by the way. I sent it off to Morini, they serviced it, ánd put a new date on the cilinder.
Thanks to JiriK I have an English manual
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:18 pm
by NikNak
This discussion can be listed as "closed."
JiriK scanned and sent me an English copy of what I needed.
Results in under 24 Hours ... wow - great forum!
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:24 pm
by Rover
Yeah! And you learned not to fret your constant bleeding.