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Suggetion of two new topic's/forums.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:53 pm
by shootright
As I have looked thru target Talk I yet found a forum for PP Air Pistol and NMAR. Wouldn't we want to have an area forum for these topic's. Would there be any way these 2 new shooting sports could have there very own forums. Please add so we can here or find, events and what states/groups are shooting these programs.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:10 am
by JamesH
What are they?

For PP Air Pistol

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:37 am
by shootright
Numerous opportunities exist for young people interested in pistol shooting sports. The Olympic events include Men’s and Women’s Air Pistol and Smallbore (.22), Men’s Free and Rapid Fire Pistol events as well as the Women’s Sport Pistol event. The junior event created to lead to these events is called Junior Progressive Position Air Pistol (PPP). USA Shooting and the National Rifle Association both support this event and hold a jointly sponsored National Junior Progressive Position Air Pistol Championship annually.
PPP is a great introduction to shooting sports as equipment, particularly the ammunition, is cleaner, quieter and inexpensive. Temporary ranges can easily be set up in any large area (for instance a gym), as these guns do not require a permanent backstop or special ventilation system. The firing distance is only 10 meters (just under 33 feet). The rules provide for a logical progression in positions from fully supported with the pistol fully resting on a table and using both hands, up to the International one-handed position. By providing appropriate support for developmental level young athletes, they can experience early success while learning proper technique.

The PPP program is designed and intended to be a developmental vehicle that allows junior athletes the opportunity to learn the foundation skills of shooting sports and have the opportunity to participate in competitions. This provides the opportunity for the development of confidence and knowledge at an early age with a minimal investment. There are three positions in this program: the basic supported position, standing supported position, and the International position. The supported positions should be used as transitional tools along the path of athletic development while the athlete develops the upper body strength and skill level needed to shoot in the unsupported standing position which is the foundation of all international and conventional shooting sports. The rules of the first position are written very broadly, so coaches can progress athletes incrementally within the position without being forced to go to the next position before they are ready.

Supported positions are not intended as an end in themselves. Coaches should encourage their athletes to progress to the standing supported position and then to the one-handed standing position as they become proficient with basic skills and their hands are large and strong enough to do so safely.

Basic supported position- an athlete may be seated or standing, with 1 or 2 hands on the grip. Athletes are encouraged to progress to a one-handed position as soon as they may safely do so considering the size of the grip and weight of the pistol. The grip (and hands) may be rested on a firm support or a counterbalanced T-stand. If a firm support is used, the shooter may rest any part of either or both hands and the butt of the pistol on the supporting material. The firm support should be designed to provide an erect position with proper sight alignment and an extended arm. If the T stand is used, the support point may be anywhere between the elbow and muzzle. The competitor’s shooting arm should be fully extended with the sights at eye level. The non-firing hand may provide support for the firing hand or the butt of the pistol. The maximum age is 13.

Standing Supported- an athlete must be standing with one hand on the grip. A T-stand may provide counterbalance support between the elbow and muzzle. The athlete’s shooting arm must be fully extended, with the sights at eye level. There is no official minimum age, however, a club or other governing body may establish a minimum age within its jurisdiction. The maximum age is 15.

International- an athlete must shoot standing, unsupported with one hand on the grip. The suggested minimum age is 13.

Men shoot (3x20) - 3 targets 20 shots & Women shoot (2x20) - 2 targets 20 shoots
Teams consist of three members of either or both sexes. Teams may be broken into the following categories:

Supported Position Teams- consist entirely of members who are in the supported categories.

Mixed Position Teams- must have one member who shoots in a supported category. The other two members must shoot in the International category.

Unsupported Position Teams- are composed entirely of members who shoot from the International position.

Electronic or paper targets may be used - Authorized paper targets will have the logo of the ISSF, USA Shooting, or the NRA printed on them. If paper targets are used, either B-40 (single bull) or B-40/4 (four bull) targets may be used.

Target Heights - seated 36” & standing 55” to center of paper.
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For NMAR

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:41 am
by shootright
National Match Air Rifle is a new shooting discipline with something to offer all rifle shooters NMAR offers three competition classes with real challenges for shooters of all ages and competitive interests.

National Match Air Rifle (NMAR) is a new multi-faceted air rifle competition discipline that is fired indoors or outdoors on 10-meter (33 feet) ranges. NMAR events simulate highpower rifle shooting and are fired on reduced highpower rifle targets. NMAR offers both serious, high-level competition for dedicated competitive rifle shooters as well as a recreation-oriented shooting sports activity for new and casual shooters. NMAR objectives are:
• To offer air rifle competitions that replicate the unique challenges of traditional service and highpower rifle match where competitors do precision and timed fire shooting in three different firing positions, prone, sitting or kneeling and standing. The Match and AR Clone Air Rifle Divisions emphasize this type of shooting competition.
• To offer accessible, recreation-oriented air rifle competitions for adults and juniors where equipment and accessories are affordable and the courses of fire can successfully be completed by competitors who have had limited marksmanship training and experience. The Sporter Air Rifle Division emphasizes this type of shooting.
NMAR IS A SHOOTING DISCIPLINE YOU SHOULD TRY IF….If you belong to one of the groups described below. NMAR could become your shooting game if you are a:
• Highpower Rifle Shooter. If you are an active highpower or service rifle shooter.
• Adult Air Rifle Shooter. If you are past junior or college age when you fired standing or three-position air rifle and want to continue competitive air rifle shooting, NMAR may be a great way to do that.
• New Shooter (ages 12-90). If you are a new or inexperienced shooter and are looking for a way to shoot for fun and recreation, NMAR should appeal to you.
• Club Leader. If you are a leader in a shooting club that is looking for a new shooting game to attract more fun-oriented or recreational participants and members or if your club is seeking a way to train highpower rifle shooters in the off-season to practice and or shoot tournament in the winter or summer when outdoor shooting is impossible.
NMAR Targets. NMAR targets are scaled down reductions of highpower rifle targets. The AR-SR target simulates the 200-yard SR target. The AR-MR target simulates the 600-yard MR target.

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:31 am
by latin2
What is this?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:14 am
by shootright
Do not understand your question?

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:39 am
by Richard H
Isn't PP an off shoot of normal air pistol with the hope of turning a young shooter who can't physically hold an air pistol eventually into a normal air pistol shooter? If so I'd think they'd get more from the regular pistol forum. What would a PP forum contain that wouldn't be in the regular forum or the youth shooting program forum?