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Dear All

please tel me most accurate/consistent co2 .177 air pistols for ISSF

yours sincerely

Any of the late model Walther's, Steyr's or Pardini's that came in CO2 would all be good CO2 pistols .

If you are asking about top quality CO2 pistols I am not sure how many are still being made.

Even going back a couple of generations of top quality pistols they are all more accurate than you will need.

The guns are accurate, it's the shooter that makes the results inconsistent.

I have little experience of the pistols that use small CO2 capsule but, from those I have seen, I wouldn't consider any of them suitable for the ISSF single shot events.

Good advice from David. No point in buying new when you can get great used CO2 guns because of trade-ins for CA. Even the early FWB 2 is still excellent, but I'd rather have a Steyr LP1. You can get the very nice Pardini K60 very cheaply.

There is no down side to the CO2 guns except perhaps in the desert heat where I live. I also really like the SSPs (Pardini K58, FWB 100 series) because you need no accessories.

Our host (Pilkguns) has a lot to say on this subject if you snoop around.

Richard H wrote:Any of the late model Walther's, Steyr's or Pardini's that came in CO2 would all be good CO2 pistols .

Please suggest some model no. with pros and cons

David Levene wrote:If you are asking about top quality CO2 pistols I am not sure how many are still being made.

Even going back a couple of generations of top quality pistols they are all more accurate than you will need.

The guns are accurate, it's the shooter that makes the results inconsistent.

I have little experience of the pistols that use small CO2 capsule but, from those I have seen, I wouldn't consider any of them suitable for the ISSF single shot events.

Please suggestme some model no. with pros and cons

rajemessage wrote:Please suggestme some model no. with pros and cons

You are missing the point.

ALL proper target CO2 pistols will be accurate. The big difference is whether they suit you, and only you will know that.

It doesn't matter how accurate a gun is, if you don't like the trigger, or the grip angle, or the sights, or the balance etc etc then it is not the best gun for you.

You want a specific suggestion? How about Steyr LP1C? Some people like it some people don't, but like any other top quality target pistol it's intrinsically accurate.

The FWB C-20 is a fine pistol. Decent balance and good trigger (IMHO), but quite heavy as compared with a modern CA pistol. It's companion C-25 with a vertical CO-2 tank might be even better because of the balance & the fact that the liquid propellant stays at the bottom of the tank. Trigger and barrel are, I think, the same.

rajemessage wrote:

Richard H wrote:Any of the late model Walther's, Steyr's or Pardini's that came in CO2 would all be good CO2 pistols .

Please suggest some model no. with pros and cons

Steyr LP1
Pardini K2
Walther CP200, CP1, CP2, CP3, CPM1
FWB not sure the model numbers for them not my favorites either

Pros- cheaper than a new PCP gun

Cons- usually heavier than modern pistols (hard to customize weight and balance by adding and moving weight)
- modern pistols sport more adjustments thus better ergonomics for a larger range of shooters
-old, out of production, support and parts maybe harder or even impossible to come by for real old CO2 pistols.
-few after market accessories available

The only other pro is if you're set up for CO2 already, it would be cheaper

Accuracy wise there's no difference between a CO2 and a PCP gun that is equal example an LP 1 (that came in both).

Unless you can't get air or a pump I would recommend getting a PCP pistol. Mainly because you're looking at a more modern pistol. If you travel to matches you'll usually find air in some form either a tank or pump. Forget your fill adapter and have a LP 1 or 10 or a Morini someone else will have one you can borrow.

I was running the range for the National Modern Pentathlon this year and guys forgot CO2 adapters, or their CO 2 pistols had issues and they asked me and others for help but unfortunately wasn't much I could do other then help them borrow a more modern pistol or lend them one of ours. From personal observation CO2 pistols seem to have more leaky seal issues, that's totally anecdotal.

Richard H wrote: Steyr LP1
Pardini K2
Walther CP200, CP1, CP2, CP3, CPM1
FWB not sure the model numbers for them not my favorites either.

FWB in this order of manufacture:

Model 2
C10
C20
C25

I have some older .177 pistols and they are very accurate. I got into them for a more reasonable price. All C02 except one. Like most pistols I own, they shoot better than me!!!!!! LOL

FWB65- Spring gun.
FWBC55-C02
Crosssman Skanaker-C02

As a single point of comparison (and one data point definitely is NOT statistically signifcant), my LP1 groups incredibly well with Co2. When I converted it to PCP air it would never group as well as it did with Co2. After hours and hours of fiddling and testing different pellets, different velocities etc I gave up and switched it back to Co2 power. It remains an impressive shooter with Co2 and will produce groups smaller than any of my three PCP pistols.

Again, just one data point, but with respect to this thread it's an important data point since the original poster was asking which Co2 pistol is the best. The answer is " found a good one." Not all are so lucky, irrespective of their choice of propellant.