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World Championships - Centre Fire Pistol
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:21 pm
by David Levene
102 shooters
9 (as far as I could see) revolvers
Ekimov (the winner) used a 40 year old Nagant (according to his coach).
The other revolvers, to my untrained eye, appeared to be 1 Manhurin and the rest were Toz.
I can only remember 1 MG4, most of the others were various GSPs and Pardinis.
CF
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:29 pm
by julioalperi
Thank you very much, David.
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:53 am
by TB
CF
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:03 am
by julioalperi
Thank you TB.
Re: World Championships - Centre Fire Pistol
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:40 pm
by ruig
David Levene wrote:
Ekimov (the winner) used a 40 year old Nagant (according to his coach).
Nagant? I doubt. I suppose his coach joked or doesn't know how to spell TOZ-49 in English.
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:12 pm
by David M
The Nagant revolver is in two forms, the Toz-36 with the 7.62 Nagant long cartridge and the Toz-49 with the 7.62 Nagant Short cartridge.
The latter has had many revolvers converted to .32 S&W long.
Without a photo you would not know which revolver he shot nor the cartridge.
The other unknown revolver shot at the champs was a Manurhin MR73 match in .32.
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:54 pm
by David Levene
David M wrote:Without a photo you would not know which revolver he shot nor the cartridge.
I was told he was using the long cartridge and was having problems finding cases/ammunition.
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:03 pm
by Alexander
David Levene wrote:I was told he was using the long cartridge and was having problems finding cases/ammunition.
Nah. It would be the other way around. The long cartridge is still produced by two Western manufacturers (Fiocchi and Prvi Partizan), but the short one?
Impossible to find outside Russia, it appears to me, so case shortening and handloading would be needed. Or does anybody know a European source?
Alexander
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:58 pm
by JamesH
Alexander wrote:David Levene wrote:I was told he was using the long cartridge and was having problems finding cases/ammunition.
Nah. It would be the other way around. The long cartridge is still produced by two Western manufacturers (Fiocchi and Prvi Partizan), but the short one?
Impossible to find outside Russia, it appears to me, so case shortening and handloading would be needed. Or does anybody know a European source?
Alexander
Betram Brass Co. In Australia produce 7.62x26 brass for the Toz 49.
I paid A$88/100 recently, which isn't cheap but can't be helped.
There is/was a US manufacture who make 7.62x38, maybe they'd do a batch
Fiocchi make 7.62x38.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:02 am
by ruig
You don't want hear me.
Once again - two Russians, Leonid und Sergei used TOZ-49.
And no matter what coach said.
By the way, the coach is Renat Suleymanov (73 years old). Bronze medal winner at Olympic Games 1968 in Mexico.
Suleymanov is national team coach and Leonid's personal coach is at home in
Novodvinsk.
P.S. Mikhail Nestruev established world record in center fire pistol in Granada 2007 with TOZ-49 (296+298 = 594). Alexei Klimov equaled the world record in Osijek 2009 with Hämmerli SP20 (296+298).