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Out of date or non useable Air Cylinder for Steyr LP10

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:39 pm
by abprops
If anyone has an out of date or none usable Air Cylinder that would fit onto a Steyr LP10 E I would be interested.  All I need is a standard size cylinder to take an infra red attachment when dry firing.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:35 am
by Richard H
Why don't you use the cylinders that come with it. It's not like the sensor would be in the same place each time you mount it, you'd have to move it anyways.

Steyr Air Cylinder

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:02 am
by abpops
The pistol came with two cylinders. So I use one as you suggest but I would prefer to use an alternative cylinder and if anyone has a non functioning or out of date one we could perhaps both benefit.

Nothing ventured nothing gained gained. If none are available I will just have to continue as I am, purchase a new one now or wait another nine years or so when I will have two out of date cylinders to choose from.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:57 am
by Tycho
Not many people are going to throw away a perfectly good cylinder just because of its age...

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:28 pm
by David M
"Not many people are going to throw away a perfectly good cylinder just because of its age..."

.......its because of its age that it is no longer perfectly good.

Aluminium has a fatigue life.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:38 pm
by Richard H
David M wrote:"Not many people are going to throw away a perfectly good cylinder just because of its age..."

.......its because of its age that it is no longer perfectly good.

Aluminium has a fatigue life.
Dave 10 years is nowhere near the fatigue life of an aluminum cylinder that is machined from a solid billet of aluminum of that size under the pressures that these AP cylinders are exposed to.

Before you start arguing come up with a good reason why Morini cylinders are good for 15 years, when their construction and composition is the same.

I guess the 30+ year old scuba tanks should be thrown out.

Re: Steyr Air Cylinder

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:47 pm
by superstring
abpops wrote:The pistol came with two cylinders. So I use one as you suggest but I would prefer to use an alternative cylinder and if anyone has a non functioning or out of date one we could perhaps both benefit.

Nothing ventured nothing gained gained. If none are available I will just have to continue as I am, purchase a new one now or wait another nine years or so when I will have two out of date cylinders to choose from.
Maybe I'm missing something here, so forgive the question, but why don't you want to continue to use one of your 2 existing cylinders? It's not as if you're going to wear out a cylinder by dry firing! Is it because you want to permanently attach the infra red device to one cylinder?

Re: Steyr Air Cylinder

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:35 am
by David Levene
superstring wrote:Is it because you want to permanently attach the infra red device to one cylinder?
I can't think of a way of doing that. You wouldn't be able to screw the cylinder on or off.

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:38 am
by Makris D. G.
I think our friend intends to fit the sensor inside the cylinder...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:42 am
by ghostrip
there is of not use to install the sensor inside an expired cylinder because sensors have cables that will make mounting the culinder very hard.[/code]

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:00 am
by Tycho
Why not take a old LP1 barrel weight? It will fit the shroud of any Steyr, and you can fit something inside, no problem.

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:31 am
by RobinC
Makris D. G. wrote:I think our friend intends to fit the sensor inside the cylinder...
If thats what you are going to do, it will require some machining anyway so why not turn up an alloy bar, drill and tap to fit the thread on the pistol, fit the sensor in the end of the bar and match the weight to a cylinder.
Robin

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:52 am
by David Levene
RobinC wrote:
Makris D. G. wrote:I think our friend intends to fit the sensor inside the cylinder...
If thats what you are going to do, it will require some machining anyway so why not turn up an alloy bar, drill and tap to fit the thread on the pistol, fit the sensor in the end of the bar and match the weight to a cylinder.
As has already been pointed out, the cable would be problematic.

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:07 am
by Richard H
Yes because attaching it with the included band on the cylinder is so difficult and must waste at least 10 seconds every time you mount it ;)

Looks like a solution to which there is no problem.

play nice

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:53 am
by tilly
Wow, what a bunch of grumpy dumps! The guy was just asking if there's old cylinders available - he wasn't asking for your firstborn. There's a bunch of you out there that are decidedly unhelpful and sarcastic, and it is ruining a good forum.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:57 am
by Makris D. G.
Tilly, please create an account and rescue this good forum!!

Re: play nice

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:08 am
by Richard H
tilly wrote:Wow, what a bunch of grumpy dumps! The guy was just asking if there's old cylinders available - he wasn't asking for your firstborn. There's a bunch of you out there that are decidedly unhelpful and sarcastic, and it is ruining a good forum.
Tilly I think you're reading more into the posts than is what's there.

The vast majority are just pointing out the fact that a dedicated cylinder with the Scatt sensor attached really doesn't do anything more for you than taking the sensor on and off the cylinders that you already have. Mainly because the sensor is not wireless and the cylinder is screwed on. The OP might not have thought of those limitations.

Now if he was to come back and say that he is trying to develop a wireless sensor for the Scatt and have it mounted in a cylinder he might get more help, after all the cylinders are $150 a piece.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:22 am
by ghostrip
Scatt has released a wireless sensor along its rapid fire model http://www.scatt.ru/item/35/scatt-wirel ... del-ws-m01 that can be fitted SCATT USB but at what cost .. 17800 rubles .. roughly 450 euros.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:27 am
by Richard H
A wireless sensor that uses bluetooth or something similar would definitely be very useful.