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Limp Wrist

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 12:51 pm
by Xman
I only have a brief functional knowledge of the points of the current NRA and ISSF in regards to AP and hand/grip position.

In holding hold my unarmed wrist out, if I let my wrist go "limp" ie drop wrist/hand towards the floor so that a straight line now goes from along my forarm to wards and over my thumb and index finger, that eliminates the wrist stess/muscle use if I were holding a pistol.

Do the hi $$$ APs allow for such an angular adjustment to allow for this dropped wrist angle?

I have an IZZY for the near to distant future for my AP use.

Or is this just a "free" pistol option?

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 1:03 pm
by Lilly
That is the rake angle of the grip. And yes, a good air pistol grip allows the lower angle you speak of. Certain pistols allow you to vary this angle. The largest rake I have felt is on Fas pistols, they have a very pronounced drop.

You can definitely notice when going back to say a 1911 style or even ruger pistol.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:05 pm
by Shooting Kiwi
Can anyone explain how the currently fashionable rake angle for standard and air pistols has been arrived at? It is neither the 'strong' grip angle almost universal on service-type pistols, nor anywhere near the extreme wrist 'droop' described by Xman. It seems a strange half-way solution, and not a 'natural' position to try to maintain, There seems little obvious to commend it. Even with my TOZ free pistol, if I relax my wrist and let it droop, the barrel points to the floor only a few yards ahead, and this is with the grip carved to try to accommodate maximal wrist droop.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:26 am
by Lilly
At least for standard pistol I assume the rake angle is limited by the technical regulations of barrel line to top of hand limitations, in addition to overal length of pistol to still fit in the dimensional box at equipment control. Also unless we are talking about a forward magazine design, the magazine still has to fit into the grip, and having a large angle here will cause problems with proper ammo feeding.