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Rapid Fire Guns

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:08 am
by lastman
Hi all,

I am looking for a new Rapid Fire pistol and I am looking to get everyone's ideas on what they think is a good RF gun and why.

Cheers,

Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:18 am
by Retired
I've been out of the game for a long time, when RF was shot with shorts. Back then the two manufacturers with the most market share were Walther and Pardini. I believe Pardini has the vast majority of market share currently. The Walther SSP, however, looks promising. Be sure to find something with a trigger that has a short reset. The newer Walther GSP triggers have too long of a reset for RF. The SSP trigger might be different. You'll have to find someone with these guns so you can try them out.
Good luck.
Retired

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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 10:10 pm
by 2650 Plus
It is obvious to me that Retired has been there and done that, Meaning shot Int Rapid Fire. I will not try to add to his valid comment. Good Shooting Bill Horton

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:08 am
by Guest
Pardini Sp New. Great pistol with many championships behind it.

Rapid-fire pistol

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:17 pm
by alanlevin
Hi.

I have a Unique DES 823-U for sale. I used it in competition in the '80's and it's still in EXCELLENT condition.

Let me know if you're still looking for a RFP.

-Alan

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:32 pm
by visitor
Is your Unique pistol .22 short or long-rifle? What are you asking for it?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:53 pm
by alanlevin
Hi.

It's a .22 short, comes with original case, 3 extra mags (total 4) and all paperwork.

Asking $950.

Give me your e-mail address and I can send pix.

-Alan

Re: Rapid Fire Guns

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:55 pm
by Spencer
lastman wrote:Hi all,

I am looking for a new Rapid Fire pistol and I am looking to get everyone's ideas on what they think is a good RF gun and why.

Cheers,
Morini CM RF or Pardini RF appear to be the best choices: low bore line, reliable, good absorbers.
For these reasons, also great for Standard Pistol.

If looking at s/h RFP pistols, be aware that .22Short is not allowed if you intend to shoot in the ISSF event. ISSF RFP specifies .22LR

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:04 pm
by Richard H
alanlevin wrote:Hi.

It's a .22 short, comes with original case, 3 extra mags (total 4) and all paperwork.

Asking $950.

Give me your e-mail address and I can send pix.

-Alan
You are aware that RF is no longer shot with .22 short right?

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:07 am
by Brian James
I have heard of some sucess with the Terso TS22 and know of some recent sucess with the Matchguns MG2.

The support network you have available to you should be a consideration for which pisotl you purchase.

Pistol X may be best for you, but if you do not have access to spare parts or a national dealer its likely not a long term option for you.

Brian

EDIT: I know of a few Walter SSPs which people seem to really enjoy and I have witnessed some very impressive results from.

RFP

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:34 am
by alanlevin
Richard,

No, I was not aware of that.

So now my Unique is a "highly collectible" firearm, right? ;- )

-Alan

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:49 am
by Tycho
Street prices for .22 short pistols have dropped dramatically since 2005, except the really collectible ones. Nowadays, most top shooters seem to use Pardini, Tesro or Matchguns. Haven't seen many SSP here in Switzerland, and even less that work.

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:37 pm
by Richard H
There were a few SSP's at the USA World Cup, no issues with them that I witnessed. The most popular by far is Pardini.

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:10 pm
by Tzed250
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Martin Strnad used an SSP to shoot the top qualification score at the Belgrade WC RF event.


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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:52 pm
by John Kasaian
Not to highjack the thread, but why would you not want to use the same pistol you use to shoot SP with?

It would seem like "learning" a new pistol and a new course of fire would add an unneccesary element to the learning curve.

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:17 am
by David Levene
John Kasaian wrote:Not to highjack the thread, but why would you not want to use the same pistol you use to shoot SP with?
The requirements of the two events are different.

In Standard Pistol you want as little movement as possible between shots. In Rapid Fire you need to be able to move, and then stop, the pistol between shots.

My own Standard Pistol was a FAS602 with the extra-heavy barrel shroud. Fantastic for Standard with very low recoil and very fast recovery. Lousy for Rapid Fire as inertia made it very difficult to control between targets.

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:34 am
by Spencer
(after a recently renewed burst of enthusiasm for RFP) I have ordered a Morini CM22 RF in steel - awaiting the next shipment to AUS - Morini please note...

The factors:
- fit
- reliability
- accuracy
- muzzle flip (or rather, the lack thereof)
- trigger

Ps. enthusiasm for RFP chews through the (rapidly reducing) ammunition stock - maybe it's called 'Rapid' for the way your ammunition supply decreases!
S

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:38 am
by deadeyedick
and even less that work.
An SSP was placed fourth in the last world cup by a Czechoslovakian shooter.
Another member of our club and myself use SSP's without any hint of malfunctions.

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:24 am
by Leon
Spencer wrote:(after a recently renewed burst of enthusiasm for RFP) I have ordered a Morini CM22 RF in steel - awaiting the next shipment to AUS - Morini please note...

The factors:
- fit
- reliability
- accuracy
- muzzle flip (or rather, the lack thereof)
- trigger

Ps. enthusiasm for RFP chews through the (rapidly reducing) ammunition stock - maybe it's called 'Rapid' for the way your ammunition supply decreases!
S
I've been thinking about one of these as well. I thought they only came with alloy frames?

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:47 pm
by Spencer
Leon wrote:...I've been thinking about one of these as well. I thought they only came with alloy frames?
will post when it turns up - hopefully steel