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Is there anyone out there with some trigger time behind a Pardini HP electronic version that can provide some some impressions of the gun??

Thanks in advance.

Paul

I'm interested too. I'm about to buy a brand new HP electronic or mechanic.

So all you Pardini-mainiacs, opinions please! :-)

/axel

Hello !
In May i tested the Pardini el. in .32, I fired it 200 shots. I also tested the "new" Pardini with mechanical trigger. First i did some slowfire (precision). At this I feel the el. trigger was no better than the mech. version. Mostly because Pardini have a excellent mech. trigger with very short travel from the beginning of second stage to releasepoint. After I shoot some mil.rapidfire, and here the el.trigger have a advantage for me, as the el. trigger can have a very short first stage of the trigger. As a result you can have a minimal movement in the triggerfinger witch was comfortable for me. When I tested the mech.trigger for mil.r.fire I feel I moved the finger sevral cm's. The gunsmith from the dealer told me that the Pardini must have a relatively long first stage of the trigger.
But this I think is a mather of getting used to the travel. You have time enough to move the finger under the recoil. The bad news: I know four shooters with Pardini el. trigger two of them have had some problems with the triggersystem. So maybe it's to early to buy the el.version ?

Best wishes from Tor (Norway)

Thank you Tor! Do you know what type pf problems they had with the electronic trigger?

/axel

Sorry Axel ! I can not specify the problem with the el.trigger, but I will talk with the shooters with theese pistols because I want to buy new Pardini in .22 and .32 these days. I live near the dealer who are very helpfull and service-minded. I also consider the the earlyer version who are 1000,-nkr. cheaper and I don't think it's too much difference between "new" and old model: 6 vs 4 counterweights, new trigger more adjustable (this the dealer change to the Pardini air pistol triggerblade, he told me the new trigger was not stable enough), the new frame are cast under pressure and have more openings for trigger adjustment.....good thing. About the counterweights I am not sure....... On the .32 I can't imagen the minimal mass of 4 or 6 counterweights moving will affect the recoil in any way. Have some others out there any experience(or seen some serious tests) about counterweights maybe on Walther, AW 93, Hämmerli...........

Tor, Norway

Hello again !
Today I talked to one of the shooters with Pardini el. trigger, and asked him about the problems. He told me this was solved now. Two of the shooters had problems with discharge of the battery. The Pardini dealer then changed the electronics in both pistols for free. After some time the third shooter also got offer from the dealer to change the electronic unit in his gun (for free) even if his pistol have been trouble free.
After this all the pistols have function very well.

Tor

Interesting info Tor! Thank you again.

What type of batteries does Pardini use? Is it standard AAA cells or more expensive camera batteries?

/Axel

The new .22 electronic takes two AAA batteries (same as Morini). One factory tip, remove the rim of the battery casing on the +ive end so ensure contact as the batteries move on recoil.

I hope they shoot as well as feel dry-fire. I will find out tomorrow as I picked up the Pardini SP1 .22 electronic (new generation electronics) and a new model HP .32 today! I went for the electronic .22 and manual .32 As I don’t shoot CISM then the benefits of the electronic are somewhat negated and I liked the manual trigger. I don’t have easy access to engineering factory support as we are rarely in Central Europe to shoot 25m events, I therefore opted for the safer option for the .32 as this is my favourite 25m event.

Many thanks to the input to earlier thread re spares etc. A friend is visiting the factory next week so I guess I will owe him a few Euro on his return!

Thanks again.

Last question, does grips from the mechanic version fit the electronic version? I guess the batteries are located in the grip!?

/Axel

You guess right. Vice versa is no problem, but to use the grip from the mechanical version on the electronic, you have to drill the holes for the batteries and the switch, which is not all that easy, but can be done on a grip with enough substance.

Does anybody know the realistic duty life through their own use of the batteries on the Pardini .22 Electronic standard/sport pistol (latest version of electronics)?

Rumor has it that Larry's Guns in Maine is getting their first big shipment of Pardini's soon, and that it will include a number of the electronic SP's.

Reliability & battery life aside (which have hopefully been fixed), are there any other issues with the electronic trigger? For example, does it limit grip adjustability the way it does in the Morini free pistol? I don't recall that the regular SP has any adjustment for grip angle or rotation, so it may not be an issue.

Gwhite wrote:Reliability & battery life aside (which have hopefully been fixed)

They haven't if what I saw last week is typical. New quality batteries, a couple of hundred rounds training, about a hundred or so dry clicks, and the batteries ran out halfway through a third Standard Pistol match. I make that somewhere in the region of 500 trigger releases :-(

The bad thing is, and this is only an impression with no real evidence, it seems as though flat batteries cannot recharge the circuitry fast enough in the 20s and 10s so you get a malfunction. By the time the range officer gets to test the pistol the cicuit has recharged and it goes bang. Non-allowable, you only get the shots you fired. As I say, only an impression but a disaster if I am right.

If I am right then it needs some circuitry to shut down the main electronics when the battery voltage falls below a reference and only starts it up again when a higher reference is reached.

Yep, same problem I had with my GPE 3 years ago. Cost me a top ten place at the national champs. Put the thing into my museum then and won't touch any electronic Pardini since. Feedback from our national team seems to indicate similar problems, although with national team status you get an exchange part very fast. Surprisingly (or not?), these exchange parts from the factory seem to work statistically more reliable, which could indicate that Pardini is aware of the problems, but not willing or not able to check every single electronic module - in a pistol with this pricetag...