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v76 · Post by **v76** » Thu May 03, 2012 4:56 pm

And another interesting read, suggested by my gf: http://adultingblog.com/post/15099788041! Very interesting blog. ;)

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu May 03, 2012 4:58 pm

I'm talking about personalized approach, where your performance will be constantly monitored by some one knowledgeable.
You can continue this public approach to learn something. It is nice show, no question about.

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu May 03, 2012 5:05 pm

Mitigated Speech and Plane Crashes
http://www.whatsbestnext.com/2009/06/mi ... e-crashes/

How many planes they lost and human lives, before they acknowledged problem and start looking for solution?

I'm positive.;)

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » Thu May 03, 2012 5:06 pm

... in aid of which I am becoming more knowledgeable... which is an idea you do not agree with, as I am by now very well aware. Some day, if/when I am asked to join the national team, I will of course have a coach and other resources. At present I prefer to stick with my tried-and-true way of learning, namely to do as much as I can on my own, supplemented by materials available thanks to the good graces of others, whether that be library books, blogs, email consultation (whether one-sided or mutually beneficial), or such papers as V76 has been making available. There are aspects of learning we all share. There are others which are highly individual. I happen to be of a personality type which finds top-down learning very difficult to deal with.

I suspect that this was the cause of most of those times early on when I left various jobs. Having a 'boss' makes me angry, as such people are usually overbearing and condescending in their approach to instruction. Independent learning has always worked better for me, but of course I am not saying 'independent' means 'entirely without input from others' which would be absurd. We all learn from others, but the style of that learning can differ from person to person. I rather doubt that I'd be a good student for you Russ. Most of my teachers in school ended their time with me in frustration, as I took 90%+ grades but was very uncooperative as to their styles of teaching; they bored me.

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu May 03, 2012 5:11 pm

I am just asking questions here.

"Some day, if/when I am asked to join the national team, I will of course have a coach and other resources."

It is not correct assumption.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » Thu May 03, 2012 5:12 pm

Russ wrote:Mitigated Speech and Plane Crashes
http://www.whatsbestnext.com/2009/06/mi ... e-crashes/

I'm positive.;)

So you are suggesting that your style here has largely been in aid of an un-mitigated approach? That politeness would get in the way of teaching? Or are you referring to my own responses to your comments, that I ought to have used mitigated speech in addressing you? Either way, I have a hard time taking anything from a "God-centered Leadership" blog very seriously, just as I have a difficult time discussing anything seriously with people who adhere to whatever faith/mythology. It's easier to relate to small children, whose minds have not yet been corrupted by churches and their well-meaning delusional teachings, but who still believe in things 'magical.' That sort of optimism and the energy to go with it are a positive force. Faith is a mis-direction of the natural, innocent good will of children which leads to a lot of well-meaning but dangerous thinking in adults.

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu May 03, 2012 5:17 pm

What I am trying to say is:
Your assumptions (current believes) will lead you not to the point what are you positively thinking about.

You can try one more year, and in 2013 you can ask me :WHY?

It is not about to be positive or negative, it is about knowledge of decision making process.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » Thu May 03, 2012 5:18 pm

v76 wrote:And another interesting read, suggested by my gf: http://adultingblog.com/post/15099788041! Very interesting blog. ;)

She makes some interesting points, thanks, but my take on it overall is that of a self-defensive stance, not a creative one which includes hope for humanity's improvement. Not quite as morose as a 'just let me get through this life more or less intact' approach... but not a whole lot more optimistic either.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » Thu May 03, 2012 5:20 pm

Russ wrote:What I am trying to say is:
Your assumptions (current believes) will lead you not to the point what are you positively thinking about.

Of course not! What are we, static beings? My current 'beliefs' as you call them (belief isn't really part of my repertoire, sorry) are only what define me as I am up to this second, or a second ago. It's in knowing that, really understanding that fact and DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT that we are able to grow into something better. Hence all the reading and training, right?

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu May 03, 2012 5:27 pm

Lets do the following.
Do what are you trying to accomplish and forget about my presence here. We will check next summer your success story, if it is OK with you.

Next summer you will have two options:
One is become “King of the Hill”.
Two is asking me Why question.

v76 · Post by **v76** » Thu May 03, 2012 5:27 pm

Gerard wrote:
v76 wrote:And another interesting read, suggested by my gf: http://adultingblog.com/post/15099788041! Very interesting blog. ;)
She makes some interesting points, thanks, but my take on it overall is that of a self-defensive stance, not a creative one which includes hope for humanity's improvement. Not quite as morose as a 'just let me get through this life more or less intact' approach... but not a whole lot more optimistic either.

Well, you don't have to self-defend if you don't engage. Positive thinking in this case would be more akin to a quest towards infinity than one with a resolute ending. I see where you're going but sometimes the key will just never fit, unless you reflow it. Sadly, self-improvement, transformation, rebirth and even self-actualization kind of halts itself after a few years of life for some. Better to move on from this quest that really isn't one and throw in some real meaning.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » Thu May 03, 2012 5:39 pm

Both of these comments (Russ' and V76') are worthwhile and positive, and yet one must deal with one's situation. A small part of my life at present involves reading the very few postings on this forum, in aid of incorporating useful bits into my focus on improving my shooting results. Does that not at times necessitate dealing directly with, well, everyone involved in such discussions? I've tried to avoid this problem, really I have, but at time's Russ (to his credit) becomes relevant to the discussions, and while much of what he says remains difficult to swallow, avoiding him completely does not seem practical if I am to continue participating.

It's not quite so clear-cut as the situation with Voltar1 on CAF I think. In that case you're dealing with someone so hard-headedly reactionary and redneck in his attitude that no positive outcome is imaginable in any dialogue with him. He locked a thread yesterday thanks to my comments about this, though I was more or less sort of being polite... if not mitigating much. Russ on the other hand has shown a side now and then which I appreciate as being positive. He's trying. Perhaps not hard enough, or perhaps not in the right ways, but the effort is definitely there and that seems in my mind to preclude compartmentalizing him as hopeless.

Greg Derr · Post by **Greg Derr** » Thu May 03, 2012 5:54 pm

Some things, like poison ivy, you scratch them and just get more itch. Learn to ignore some itches.

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu May 03, 2012 5:56 pm

Free cheese

By the asking for advice on the forum, you will receive 5-7 positive charged opinions. At least you will read it.
Implementation of them will take time and efforts for you to develop new habit.
Some positively charged advices could be not the real treatment for your actual problem.
Therefore, instead of one of your own problems, you will “positively “inherited two or three more.

You cannot be cautious about reading.

Too much information is also big problem of correct selection as well as lack of correct information.

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu May 03, 2012 6:35 pm

Greg Derr wrote:Gerard, great target. I would just add a few things, then let some other chime in for you.

The "wild" shots could be a few things, maybe spasm from working out is a cause or a simple "snatched" shot. This is a result of desire to shoot the shot overtaking the sight alignment and trigger control process. It happens. Just keep thinking about the good shots and the less than good shots will start to fade away.

Two things. Are you dry firing before shooting at targets? You may be shooting too many shots in training. I would cut back to 75 or so.

Good Work!

Image of your target is only 10% of necessary information to diagnose correct help for you. Your description of the process is additional 5%.
You can ask some specialists of palm reading, with the same success. I’m glad that Greg capable to perform this magic.

"Ignorance and Reality"
A basic failure to see reality as it really is.

http://morambler.wordpress.com/2007/12/ ... ing-awake/

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » Thu May 03, 2012 6:51 pm

Too much information. That's an oxymoron Russ.

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu May 03, 2012 7:03 pm

Gerard wrote:Too much information. That's an oxymoron Russ.

This is all your intellectual capacity after the reading book of Daniel Coyle "The Talent Code".
No respect :(

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu May 03, 2012 7:11 pm

Russ wrote:
Gerard wrote:Too much information. That's an oxymoron Russ.
This is all your intellectual capacity after the reading book of Daniel Coyle "The Talent Code".
No respect :(

After successful announcement of John Robinson’s success, you fail again.
Not cool.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » Thu May 03, 2012 7:13 pm

Guess I must be just too stupid to understand you Russ. Right over my head. I have no idea what you meant by either of those last comments. Perhaps it's because they didn't mean anything...

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu May 03, 2012 7:19 pm

So far, by reviling information of John Robinson’s achievement , I can recognize your largest contribution to this forum!

You are arguing with me from your second post on this forum.
He is quietly made his approach to reach his goal without asking you or Greg any questions. How cool is it?
He understands the value to work with a mentor, this is why he is working with another coach at this time.

I am just checking. Is my message positive enough at this moment?