TargetTalk

william wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:28 am "...no thanks to Corona my new Pistol is God knows where."

I don't always drink beer, but when I do I prefer Dos Equis - much less likely to drink yourself into amnesia.

william wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:34 am I'm sorry, I don't see two "groups." I see one rather large cluster (with a low, right wanderer) centered at 8:00 on the line between the 9 and 8 rings. I'm curious - in what order did you make the shots?

william wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:02 am Better!

Since you have some time, walk the 10 meters after every shot and catalogue the shots in order. It will slow you down and put time & distance between shots, so each shot really can become "a one-shot match." Then, if you can, make note of what if any adjustments, physical and mental, you made from one to the next. BTW, scoring practice targets may be good for ego-stroking, but it's of little or no help in identifying and correcting errors.

nmondal wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:48 am

william wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:28 am "...no thanks to Corona my new Pistol is God knows where."

I don't always drink beer, but when I do I prefer Dos Equis - much less likely to drink yourself into amnesia.

Appreciated the pun man, but no it is the virus corona. I ordered LP 500 on Jan, and , miraculously, it still has not reached me.
They are blaming pandemic for this ( and they probably are quite right).

B Lafferty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:48 pm

nmondal wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:48 am

william wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:28 am "...no thanks to Corona my new Pistol is God knows where."

I don't always drink beer, but when I do I prefer Dos Equis - much less likely to drink yourself into amnesia.

Appreciated the pun man, but no it is the virus corona. I ordered LP 500 on Jan, and , miraculously, it still has not reached me.
They are blaming pandemic for this ( and they probably are quite right).

Tracking?

JonPersson wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:24 am
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- and get some shooting glasses ASAP

The answer to any shooters problems often lies in one or more of the above.

Where to start?

I can answer that for you, but I can tell you that tweaking the sights based on a 10-shot series will not make you groups smaller, it will merely move them around a bit.

For me, learning to modify the grip and seeing how different ways of gripping (how hard, with/without thumb pressure etc) impacted my groups was the biggest improvement as far as consistency goes. My top scores did not improve, but I had fewer lows.

nmondal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:53 am

B Lafferty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:48 pm

nmondal wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:48 am

william wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:28 am "...no thanks to Corona my new Pistol is God knows where."

I don't always drink beer, but when I do I prefer Dos Equis - much less likely to drink yourself into amnesia.

Appreciated the pun man, but no it is the virus corona. I ordered LP 500 on Jan, and , miraculously, it still has not reached me.
They are blaming pandemic for this ( and they probably are quite right).

Tracking?

The dealer took initial deposit and is in Limbo. "Corona". Called them 10 time in last month.

spektr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:32 am Im sitting here watching in wonderment all the conversations going on about eyes, glasses and so on.

What I am seeing in the targets is non-repeating foot placement. the individual groups look good.
Their position does not repeat. This is starting to look like the NPA is drifting. If the NPA is drifting,
the group will look good, but the group centroid moves from place to place. Its pretty clear to me
that he can see what's going on adequately enough to shoot passable groups, but he doesn't have anybody
telling him the criticality of building the position. Feet First, raise the gun, see where it gos, move the feet until
the gun NATURALLY gos to the target center on lift. All things start there, and we are all talking circles around it.

There is also the potential issue of not having shot enough to even have a statistically valid sample size. Not to
hurt anyones feelings, but there is a LOT of noise in the data. Just looking at the target tells us that. We all see
improvement paths based what we each see in the target. There doesn't seem to be a lot of consensus on what needs tuning first.

Mind You, There is a LOT of good going on. Most everything is in the black, a very good start. The last target had a couple groups
with vertical dispersions with the group centers. It sure looked to me like the rear foot moved forward to back moving the
group up and down. Foot position again. You drive the NPA with your feet. I suggest we stop twisting the knobs for a while
and concentrate on building the position. Let the group shrink, it will do that as we build the position and understand that
if we repeat HOW and WHERE we stand, the group shrinks. After it is repeating somewhere consistently, twist the knobs
move the group to the 10 ring.

perfect your stance into something repeatable, perfect your sight picture into something repeatable, then twist the knobs to
get the holes into the middle of the target repeatably. If you repeat all these things, you get 10s

of course, I can TYPE this better than I can actually do it, but that's another story, I'm still working on the repeatability thing......