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Re: Trainning AP 10m

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:08 am
by Rover
rmca wrote: โ†‘Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:46 pm Rover...

Ramms123 being from Sesimbra doesn't need any coaching with that...
He's probably been drinking it with some of the finest and freshest fish and sea food you can find in here!

;)
Hell, I could use some of that training myself! I did much of the Portuguese coast (by moto), but never saw that area.

Re: Trainning AP 10m

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:04 pm
by Ramms123
Next time, don't forget...
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Re: Trainning AP 10m

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:55 am
by Ramon OP
Are you only shooting matches during practice?

What I've seen in the literature is that at least three days a week training is recommended to progress and that just shooting matches is not enough, but it is up to you to choose what to do.

From what I've learned, when you train you should focus on specific areas of your technique, physical and mental state and work to improve them. It is the improvement of these that will translate in better scores over time if you practice seriously. Your effort and concentration in practice has to be significant to be able to progress. Process is what you have to focus on, how you shoot.

The following links from my website may be helpful if you want to dive deeper into training.

These notes with trainer Daniel Goberville from my first ever session with him may be helpful to understand a philosophy of training and explain training much better than me: https://www.olympicpistol.com/pistol-tr ... lle-notes/

Linked to those notes is this training programme: https://www.olympicpistol.com/pistol-st ... gobervile/

The first programme I ever got from a coach is this one: https://www.olympicpistol.com/my-first- ... g-program/

All the coaching programmes I've shared are in the following link, but most of them are only available to my supporters (the people that help me pay for coaching!): https://www.olympicpistol.com/category/training/ They are mainly from Daniel and Aurore Goberville.

Every coach will have something different, but these can give you an idea of how to work.

These interviews with top shooters can be helpful too (they share practical tips about training and competing): https://www.olympicpistol.com/category/interviews/ They are mostly in English, but you will find some in French and Spanish too. All the non English interviews are translated to English or in the pipeline to translate them. Google Translate works well enough if you find one that is not translated yet.

These books can be helpful too: https://www.olympicpistol.com/shooting-books/

If you just want one book for technique the best in my opinion is Master Competitive Pistol Shooting, By Ragnar Skanaker, Pontus Olsson and Mathias Navne: http://www.lulu.com/shop/ragnar-skan%C3 ... 71225.html

If you would like to talk to a coach and cannot find one in your area, you can try this directory with coaches all over the world: https://www.olympicpistol.com/coaches

Hope this helps.

Re: Trainning AP 10m

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:07 pm
by Ramms123
Wow... Thanks Ramon OP, for your fantastic post.

I've been taking a look at your blog, and I think it's very well done.

I also saw that you use scatt. I have a doubt regarding the values โ€‹โ€‹of S1. What does that value mean and what should be a good value?

Regards

Re: Trainning AP 10m

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:21 pm
by william
Ramms123 wrote: โ†‘Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:07 pm
I also saw that you use scatt. I have a doubt regarding the values โ€‹โ€‹of S1. What does that value mean and what should be a good value?

Regards
Here, look it up
https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/co ... USD&To=EUR

Re: Trainning AP 10m

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:26 pm
by Ramms123
william wrote: โ†‘Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:21 pm
Ramms123 wrote: โ†‘Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:07 pm
I also saw that you use scatt. I have a doubt regarding the values โ€‹โ€‹of S1. What does that value mean and what should be a good value?

Regards
Here, look it up
https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/co ... USD&To=EUR
sorry, I didn't understand what you mean by the link.

Re: Trainning AP 10m

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:46 pm
by rmca
william, put your reading glasses on!!

He asked S1, not $1!!! ;)

Re: Trainning AP 10m

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:00 pm
by Ramms123
rmca wrote: โ†‘Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:46 pm william, put your reading glasses on!!

He asked S1, not $1!!! ;)
Thanks Rui, I had thought of that too, but ...

Re: Trainning AP 10m

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:59 pm
by Ramon OP
Ramms123 wrote: โ†‘Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:07 pm ... also saw that you use scatt. I have a doubt regarding the values โ€‹โ€‹of S1. What does that value mean and what should be a good value?
S1 is the speed of your trace during the last second of your shot (the yellow and blue trace). S2 is the last 0.25 or 0.20 seconds of your shot depending on your scatt software (the blue trace). Ideally S2 should be smaller than S1 or equal to it. Improving any of those speeds (reducing them) means your balance, hold or trigger are getting better.

There's no reference number you can get from SCATT for different levels of shooters (I tried) . Try to improve yours, that's the one that matters :)

I know of a very good shooter that has a speed similar to mine. If you look at the files shared by SCATT you will find some very impressive shots and files to compare to, but I prefer not to (they are too good to compare at my current level).

These short articles by SCATT will help you understand it better: https://www.scatt.com/articles