just my 2 cents as well.
I use a piece of blue painters tape, or I would opt to just use another target as a backer, to use them up instead of news print!
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I shot a competition with Edelmann targets and the holes were perfect, even from a slow IZH 46M, shot another competition on The National Target Co. targets and had two doubles.
One double you could see a second lead impact mark on the black ragged edge of the initial shot and was overturned, the other only ripped the target at the whole and became a zero, because the initial hole was all ragged.
This was not a critical competition, I am not at that level, but this is an experience that should be avoided, I don't mind paying a little extra to enter a meet that uses good targets, and I strongly believe that the NRA should retest some of this targets http://www.nrahq.org/compete/licensed.asp
I now understand the pain of using bad targets in competition.
One double you could see a second lead impact mark on the black ragged edge of the initial shot and was overturned, the other only ripped the target at the whole and became a zero, because the initial hole was all ragged.
This was not a critical competition, I am not at that level, but this is an experience that should be avoided, I don't mind paying a little extra to enter a meet that uses good targets, and I strongly believe that the NRA should retest some of this targets http://www.nrahq.org/compete/licensed.asp
I now understand the pain of using bad targets in competition.
Last edited by paulo on Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
The NRA does not care about the target paper issue, especially for AP. It is just a tiny tiny fraction of $$ to them. They have just about turned over AP and to a certain extent AR competition to USAS. NRA is more interested in putting resources into Hipower ( biggg target=biggg $$ and bigger fees). Take a look at Shooting Sports USA and the number of AP and AR competitions. Mostly junior stuff. If someone happens to run a PTO-USAS at the same time as a NRA match, different fee structures is used, membership requirements and maybe even targets. It is a mess.paulo wrote: This was not a critical competition, I am not at that level, but this is an experience that should be avoided, I don't mind paying a little extra to enter a meet, but the NRA should retest some of this targets http://www.nrahq.org/compete/licensed.asp
I now understand the pain of using bad targets in competition.
I am on the verge of declaring "targetruptcy", giving away all my NRA approved tissuetargets and replacing with Krueger that I can buy easily and affordably from Stan Pace's Gold Medal Shooting in Virginia, USA. I'm so sick of ripped and torn National Target Co paper that makes it impossible to score even 5 shots on an AP target w/o guessing.
I highly recommend Gold Medal, by the way.
-pete
I highly recommend Gold Medal, by the way.
-pete
Agreed! By FAR the best flour I've ever used for pancakes!peterz wrote:I highly recommend Gold Medal, by the way.
Sorry. In all seriousness, the Kruger targets from Gold Medal are the best available. No differences with Edelmann. Some will argue that Kruger are better than Edelmann. I would say equal.
Our club switched from the NRA targets to Kruger about 6 months ago. We were shooting 1 shot per NRA target. Now the saying goes: it's easier to score 5 shots on one Kruger target than it is to score 1 shot in an NRA target. And the NRA targets *just* got even thinner with the last batch I shot at a PTO at another club last month. Just ridiculous. You can't even put them into the target holder with one hand any longer!!!
We have had no scoring issues with 5 shots/target in the Kruger and we had several shooters consistently in the 560's. Maybe with 580's we'd start seeing a problem? I dunno.
Also, keep in mind that using Kruger targets with 3-shots per target is a similar cost to NRA 1 shot per target. 5-shot targets could be just a bit less expensive than NRA targets.
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