Any one uses standing bi-pod for 10m pistol training?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:32 pm

Anyone uses standing bi-pod with telescopic legs for 10m pistol training?

Looks like a good way to teach children sight alignment and trigger pull, without having to worry about pistol weight.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:35 pm

Standing bipod like Stoney Point 64 inch bipod.

www.stoneypoint.com

Steve Swartz · Post by **Steve Swartz** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:34 pm

No.

Is this spam?

Richard H · Post by **Richard H** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:44 pm

Why would this be spam? Anatoliy Piddubnyy, use to talk about training from a rest (not a bipod) but a rest.

pgfaini · Post by **pgfaini** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:47 pm

I remember seeing a 10M junior league match, using the range before us, at one of Doc Sexton's PTO's in Newberry, SC a few years ago. They were shooting off the benches.
Paul

Guest47 · Post by **Guest47** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:53 am

Here a ecample from Germany:
http://www.formgriffe.de/auflagen/dreip ... index.html

At our club we use a selfmade rope / wheel/ counterweight system. This can be used for pistol shooting: The wrist is supported by a big wooden hook.

For rifle training: The rifle is suportted by the hook.

David Levene · Post by **David Levene** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:15 am

Guest47 wrote:At our club we use a selfmade rope / wheel/ counterweight system. This can be used for pistol shooting: The wrist is supported by a big wooden hook.

I have seen this sort of support being used on several ranges. The big advantage is that you can reduce the size of the counterweight as the shooter improves/grows/gains strength.

You can also hold competitions at various levels, e.g. those with counterweights at 75% the weight of the pistol, those with counterweights at 50% the weight of the pistol etc.

GOVTMODEL · Post by **GOVTMODEL** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:51 am

Anonymous wrote:Anyone uses standing bi-pod with telescopic legs for 10m pistol training?

Looks like a good way to teach children sight alignment and trigger pull, without having to worry about pistol weight.

Sounds like you may be interested in the USA Shooting Progressive Position Pistol program. Read about it here: http://www.usashooting.com/youthPistol.php

pgfaini · Post by **pgfaini** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:27 am

Yes, GM. That was the name of the program they were shooting under, in Newberry. I couldn't recall it when posting.
Paul

Steve Swartz · Post by **Steve Swartz** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:57 am

Great responses so far.

Many shooters train from a rest (I certainly do).

We invented something called "Progressive Pistol" that makes extensive use of a rest for training new shooters.

What I was referring to was the odd (out of place) reference to a particular product by brand name.

Yeah, O.K., I have a reputation for being somewhat sensitive to commercial advertising/product endorsement type posts. A deserved reputation i guess.

For the record, I wasn't criticizing the use of supported/resting work for training (I have described many forms of this myself many times).

I was criticizing the specific product/brand reference.

Back on point- I *don't* recommend the use of unipods or bipods for supported training.

The shooter has just *added* another complicating factor (balancing using a stick) when the whole point is to *remove* a complexity from the task.

The purpose of support is to support. If you want to work on balance, get a wobble board. If you want to work on trigger control, use a table.

I guess if you were using this in a role as an "adverse condition" or "cross training" device (like dry firing with a tennis ball hanging off the muzzle) then it might have a role? But it violates the Specificity principle.

It has great potential to be a distraction.

"Four Legs Are Better Than Two" so to speak!

Fred Mannis · Post by **Fred Mannis** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:08 pm

Steve Swartz wrote:
Yeah, O.K., I have a reputation for being somewhat sensitive to commercial advertising/product endorsement type posts. A deserved reputation i guess.

Many, if not most, of us give product endorsements when we post why we like/dislike certain products. Is it commercial advertising when I say - don't buy brand A, buy Brand B? I don't think so.

Steve Swartz · Post by **Steve Swartz** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:31 pm

Yeah, O.K. Fred; I,m guilty as charged . . . I didn't say my character flaws were rational!

Some peple don't like spiders . . .

Fred Mannis · Post by **Fred Mannis** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:34 pm

Steve Swartz wrote:
Some people don't like spiders . . .

That's me! I make my wife stomp them. :-)

guests · Post by **guests** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:20 pm

Looks like they have the solution on the german-language titled thread nearby

Steve Swartz · Post by **Steve Swartz** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:36 pm

The "gizmo" on the other thread is an adjustable rest that looks like it could be home-made quite easily.

While I'm not necessarily an "equipment" guy (in terms of which pistol/compensator/pellet/target is best) I am a sucker for "training equipment!"

I have been using a "butchers block" type rest that I lay my arm on while seated. That has been working fine for me. The wooden frame "gizmo" allows you to rest your whole arm, just the wrist, just the gun, seated, or standing, etc.

I may try making one.

Not sure if the effort would be worth it for my own training; but I can see how it may help for juniors?

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