I purchased a brand new Hämmerli FP10 friee pistol 9 - 10 years ago. The first production run. Serial no. 10x.
The extractor was from the very beginning not working perfectly. Gun was returned to the Hämmerli factory after a few months. I was surprized to find, that after the factory "adjustment" of the extractor, extraction had not become any better.
I have used the gun as is for these years, and extraction has slowly grown worse.
Today I can only use ammo with "hard" cases, e.g. CCI Standard. (Yes, I know, CCi Standard is not common free pistol fodder, but at least the cases are extracted and ejected porperly).
When using match ammo, say Lapua/Schönebeck stuff, spent cases will usually stick in the chamber after firing.
Cleaning and thourogh scrubbing of the chamber does not cure the problem. Inspection does ot reveal any residue buildup (in front part of) chamber.
By opening and cocking the action, cocking set trigger, and then "dry fire", and let the firing pin hit the case rim again, the "twice fired case" will usually be extracted 1 - 2 mm by the extractor. And hence, the case can then be pulled out with a finger nail.
Annoying, one might say.
Any cure for this?
The Hämmerli is now under control (and new locality) of the large syndicate also owning the Carl Walther company.
Any experiences from the customer/repair service level of the Hämmerli company under the new arrangement?
Hämmerli FP10 extractor problem
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I recently bought a new Hammerly 160 special and I tried several ammunitions.
The cheap CCI standard are hard to push into the chamber and also hard to eject: the ejector makes them come out only about 3 to 4mm (= the same amount as the movement of the ejector) I have also to get them out with the nail. Those CCI are also hard to push into the chamber of my Morini pistol => I think that the problem comes from the CCI ammunition and not from the pistol.
But both RWS super pistol match and SK pistol match special work fine: they slip smoothly into the chamber and are fully/nicely ejected.
Did you try several brands of ammunition with your FP10, does the problem exist with several brands ?
May be one information for those who do not know the Hammerli 160: the ejctor on that pistol is not a pin that grab the rim of the cartridge and pull it out of the chamber.
It is a half circle of the lower rear part of the chamber that moves to the rear and by doing so, push the cartridge out of the chamber.
So this ejector uses half of the rim of the cartridge instead of only a small part of it as in most 22lr pistols, so:
- it is almost impossble for the empty cartridge to stick into the chamber
- this ejector is much stronger than conventional one that are prone to break on many pistols.
The cheap CCI standard are hard to push into the chamber and also hard to eject: the ejector makes them come out only about 3 to 4mm (= the same amount as the movement of the ejector) I have also to get them out with the nail. Those CCI are also hard to push into the chamber of my Morini pistol => I think that the problem comes from the CCI ammunition and not from the pistol.
But both RWS super pistol match and SK pistol match special work fine: they slip smoothly into the chamber and are fully/nicely ejected.
Did you try several brands of ammunition with your FP10, does the problem exist with several brands ?
May be one information for those who do not know the Hammerli 160: the ejctor on that pistol is not a pin that grab the rim of the cartridge and pull it out of the chamber.
It is a half circle of the lower rear part of the chamber that moves to the rear and by doing so, push the cartridge out of the chamber.
So this ejector uses half of the rim of the cartridge instead of only a small part of it as in most 22lr pistols, so:
- it is almost impossble for the empty cartridge to stick into the chamber
- this ejector is much stronger than conventional one that are prone to break on many pistols.
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FP10
Difficult extraction
Yes, several brands.jipe wrote:
Did you try several brands of ammunition with your FP10, does the problem exist with several brands ?
More brands of match type pistol ammo will not extract well, as described above.
Cheap "bulk consume" ammo, like the CCI Standard, featuring hard cartridge cases extract and eject automatically as intended, at the opening of the action after firing the round.
Strange.
The newest CCi Standard (dark blue boxes) are loaded (much) milder than the former blu/silver boxes.
Accuracy of the CCi Standard, all-blue boxes ammo, delivers surprisingly good accuracy in my FP 10.
The CCI Standard "smokes" some more than more expensive ammo, but I can live with that at outdoor ranges.
Please attend my new thread in this colomn focusing on the newest Hämmerli FP 60...