Rohm Twinmaster AP

[pgfaini]

Just ran across, on Gunbroker, a German repeating PCP called a Rohm Twinmaster. It seems to be a competition quality pistol, but I'm not familiar with the new repeaters. He says he paid about $650 for it last year, so maybe it's not a high quality gun, I don't know what they run. It loads by the use of removeable disks (cylinders)? The starting bid is $500, and it may not even go for that amount based upon the original purchase price. This is the link, in case anyone's interested:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... m=71153764

Paul

[David Levene]

From memory, and I could be wrong, the Twinmaster has to be manually re-cocked between shots.

[pgfaini]

David, I re read the description, and he states it operates like a double action revolver. That brings trigger quality into question. I thought the new repeating AP's used air pressure to reload the chamber. I can't think of any other way to preserve a single-shot quality trigger . I once owned a Crossman CO2 copy of a double action revolver, and the trigger pull was awfull.

Paul

[David Levene]

I thought the new repeating AP's used air pressure to reload the chamber.

The Steyr and FWB (and I am sure others) do.

You know what they say Paul, "if an offer seems too good to be true, it probably is".

[Mike S-J]

I'm sure you can find someone with the oposite view, but my advice is stear clear of this gun if what you want is a competition-quality repeater (or single shot). My club has two to get people started - they invariably scare people away from AP. The trigger is an absolute pig.
It would be fine for back-yard plinking, and fun, but then you could buy cheaper guns that are much more fun.
Thats my tuppence worth.

[mikeschroeder]

David, I re read the description, and he states it operates like a double action revolver. That brings trigger quality into question. I thought the new repeating AP's used air pressure to reload the chamber. I can't think of any other way to preserve a single-shot quality trigger . I once owned a Crossman CO2 copy of a double action revolver, and the trigger pull was awfull.

Paul

Hi

I've shot one of these a couple of times. IF you shoot bullseye, IDPA, or other pistol matches with a revolver, AND you want to shoot inside, this air pistol MAY be for you. I don't think it shoots single action at all, and the double action trigger pull was hefty.

Mike
Wichita KS

[gunnery]

I had one, its a good plinker, its shoot single and double aktion.
It is NOT a match grade gun !!!!
It is good to begin to shoot, but verry fast not good inof.

[John Ariani]

I totally agree with Mike S-J.
Whilst it's not good to 'bag' anything or anyone - this pistol is definitely only for plinking.
It was my first gun after the IZH-46M. I thought I'd be able to single shot and rapid fire with it.
The trigger is dreadful. Both for rapid and single shot. Plus - if it looses velocity (as mine did after about 2000 shots) there is no adjustment and an email back from the factory tells that it cannot be adjusted.
I can give it one praise. It shoots straight - the bench test I gave it when first purchased was impressive.
But PLEASE - if you have ever fired a Steyr, Feinwerkbau, Tau, Morini - then you'd never want to own one of these.
Sorry to be so negative!!!

[ColinC]

Our club has the single shot version of the Twinmaster as a club gun. While the cocking mechanism is unusual, there is nothing wrong with its accuracy. I can shoot as well with it as my Morini 162e and recently one of our up and coming shooters shot a 550 with it.
We purchased the Rohm and pump for about half what a Morini, Steyr etc would cost.
Don't knock it unless you have tried it.

[John Ariani]

Colin C says: Don't knock it unless you have tried it.

And you'll probably notice Colin, that it was only those who tried it, who had something adverse to say about it.
For myself - I admit that price was the deciding factor when I brought mine. LP 50 was more than twice the price - yet I thought - both pistols did the same thing. Shoot straight yes - everything else - No.
I wasted $650 - as I went on to buy an LP 50 after being so disappointed.
It appears that your single shot may differ slightly in the trigger area than the rapid version - which I think this thread originally started out talking about.
For the twinmaster top version , the adjustment for the trigger for single fire is very average - and in my instance I couldn't get the trigger under 600gms.
Rapid fire could be without cocking the trigger - but if you decided to do that the best the trigger could be adjusted to was about 1500gms. Otherwise - cock the trigger between shots (using the 8 shot rotary magazine) and settle for 600gms plus.
This is definitely not a rapid fire pistol for those who want to enter competitions or take 10m target shooting seriously.

[ColinC]

Point taken, John.
The trigger on the single shot version is quite good, adjusts well. The model we bought for the club is a vast improvement on the one available 3 years ago which a member had and then quickly ditched in favor of a Steyr.

We don't shoot rapid fire AP in Australia probably because it doesn't get cold enough to stop us shooting .22 rapidfire outdoors. I don't even think it is a sanctioned match which would allow us to shoot it under our stringent handgun laws. (Yeah, air pistols are handguns in Australia, the same as a .44 Magnum) Strictly speaking we are only allowed to plink at authorised ranges and anyone practising in the shed or down the hallway faces loss of their handgun licence if caught.

[2650 Plus]

My son trains with one because the trigger feels very much like his duty gun. A Glock ,apparently OK for cops . The trigger is not impossible and he gets mid ten meter scores in the 93, 94 range shooting with a two hand hold. the magazines Hold eight pellets and while suitable for his purpose I cannot reccomend the pistol for serious competetion. The Styer Anschutz, Fienwerkbau, and the Itallian super guns are so much better suited to the compitition enviornment.Good Shooting, Bill Horton