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Bret P
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600 score

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I'm new to shooting, 8 weeks. PB is 515 and shooting a steyr evo 10 sport (manual).

What I'd love to know is from the athletes who have shot a score of 600. Was it luck? Have you done it more than once? (This feels like when I was a kid and I was asking my older brother about s€x!, whats it like lol)

Anyway, to achieve this, was there anything in particular you did? E.g. centre hold, narrow sights, rest after every 5 shots, etc..

Currently I shoot sub 6 O'clock hold just below the 5 ring, may try the centre hold just to experiment.

I train every night, dry firing and practicing the continuous pull smooth triggering. I also swim 3x a week and gym (general compound body weight exercises) 3x a week, and shoot at my local club when I can.

Any comments welcome. Thought would make an interesting topic.

Best wishes
Bret
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Re: 600 score

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Bret P wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 2:52 pm I'm new to shooting

What I'd love to know is from the athletes who have shot a score of 600.

Anyway, to achieve this, was there anything in particular you did?
Current world record is 594.

Gonna need Albert Einstein or Buck Rogers to blast you thru a wormhole to find a 600.

600 will NEVER be done.
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Re: 600 score

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Complete list of those who have shot 600:

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Re: 600 score

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atomicgale wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 3:36 pm 600 will NEVER be done.
Chuck Norris once shot a 601
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Re: 600 score

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PirateJohn wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:32 pm
atomicgale wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 3:36 pm 600 will NEVER be done.
Chuck Norris once shot a 601
Twice!
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Re: 600 score

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Peter Lovett wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:04 pm
PirateJohn wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:32 pm
atomicgale wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 3:36 pm 600 will NEVER be done.
Chuck Norris once shot a 601
Twice!
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Re: 600 score

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So, let's dissect your questions and answer one by one:
Bret P wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 2:52 pm What I'd love to know is from the athletes who have shot a score of 600. Was it luck? Have you done it more than once?
Current World Record is 594
Olympic Record is 591
Most international competitions end with the top shooters at 580+
So no, no one has reached 600 and probably no one will ever be able to.
Bret P wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 2:52 pm Currently I shoot sub 6 O'clock hold just below the 5 ring, may try the center hold just to experiment.
Stick to sub six. You want the contrast between the black of your sights and the white/yellow of the target to get a good sight alignment.
Bret P wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 2:52 pm I train every night, dry firing and practicing the continuous pull smooth triggering. I also swim 3x a week and gym (general compound body weight exercises) 3x a week, and shoot at my local club when I can.
Swimming is very good exercise for pistol shooting, weights are not.
They make you lose some of the finer motor skills you need for pistol (if you over do them...).

Hope this helps

P.S.
CHUCK NORIS NEVER SHOT LESS THAN 600!
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Re: 600 score

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Thank you all for the replies.

I've read alot about sub 6 aim, it is very difficult as it's hard to judge how much white should be below the black ring. I'm surprised centre hold isn't more popular as it's much easier to aim at the thing you want to hit and you also have to concentrate harder to visualise the foresight against the grey background. Also I think I read somewhere that one of the shooting records was done with a centre hold, so surely that's a fairly strong argument to do centre?

I'm not trying to be difficult just asking questions around the subject to gain a wider understanding of the issues.

Take care all

Bret
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Re: 600 score

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>it's hard to judge how much white should be below the black ring

Not after your 10,000th trigger pull. It becomes more what you feel than what you see. My groups on a blank target are just as tight as my groups on a regular target because I'm not looking at the target anyway.
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Re: 600 score

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Looks like this...
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Using a 70% wide foresight
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Re: 600 score

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Bret P wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:52 pm I'm surprised centre hold isn't more popular as it's much easier to aim at the thing you want to hit . . . Also I think I read somewhere that one of the shooting records was done with a centre hold, so surely that's a fairly strong argument to do centre?
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Re: 600 score

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Bret P wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:52 pm I'm surprised centre hold isn't more popular as it's much easier to aim at the thing you want to hit and you also have to concentrate harder to visualise the foresight against the grey background.
"easier to aim at the thing you want to hit"
There is so much wrong with this statement that it is not funny.
If you are looking at where to hit, YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE TARGET and not your foresight.
You cannot focus on three things at once, some people believe that you can but in fact your focus is rapidly
moving from Target to foresight to rear sight and is just putting the last image into memory to be refreshed later.
This rapid movement will cause fatigue very quickly and performance drops.
A iris can help change the field of vision but again causes eye fatigue.
Looking at the target is for some service/action shooting but not for precision shooting.
In precision shooting we use a lens to fool the eye and bring the focus back to the foresight, nice, sharp and clear.
The target is a blur and the rear sight a lesser blur.
Look at the drawings above, this is what you want to see and with the least amount of eye strain possible.
Bret P
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Re: 600 score

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Thank you all.

Will experiment about what feels comfortable and natural and see how it goes.

Best wishes
Bret
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Re: 600 score

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It is known that when Chuck Norris enters his name in the Sius targets they automatically spit 60 10.9's to save everyone's time.
And of course when Chuck shoot at paper targets, targets go themselves and punch a 10.9 hole.
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Re: 600 score

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Chuck Norris once shot a 10.9 on a clay target
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