What to Buy ? Feinwerkbau P8X vs Walther LP 500

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Re: What to Buy ? Feinwerkbau P8X vs Walther LP 500

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Its highly unlikely that many people can shoot 60 shots without the occasional catastrophic 8.
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brent375hh wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:03 am Its highly unlikely that many people can shoot 60 shots without the occasional catastrophic 8.
I once hit only one 8 in a 60 shot session. Unfortunately it wasn't a PR for me because I somehow also shot a boatload of 9s. Oh well.
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brent375hh wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:03 am Its highly unlikely that many people can shoot 60 shots without the occasional catastrophic 8.
That is very correct. But if it happens, and it happens late in the final round, unless you are Saurabh Chaudhury, you are out of the competition.
If it is him, he would score two 10.9 post that.
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Re: What to Buy ? Feinwerkbau P8X vs Walther LP 500

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Labeling shot values as inherently "good" or "bad" is BAD. When you first start out, you may label anything above 8 as "good" and below that as "bad". This trains your brain to feel that 8's are good, or at least, not bad. As you improve, you may consciously say 10s are good and 8s are bad, but your prior experience has trained your brain that 8 and 9s are good so your setting yourself up for internal conflict.

To take this a bit further, many of us unconsciously link our personal worth/value on the quality of our shooting. This sets us up for even larger failure as "good people don't shoot 'bad' shots so I must not be a 'good' shooter" because i shoot 'bad' shots". Hows that for a confidence booster from your subconscious in a match?

To go to the extreme, if your shooting 570+ and you deem 9.5 bad after years of practicing to shoot 9s and 10s, you run into the same mental issues. If you put an 8 on target, your now dealing with years of self beratement training at a critical time. That's easy to come back from, right?

I feel it's much better to judge a shot "good" by "was it on call or not". If it was, it's acceptable, regardless of where you would have preferred it to be. This way, your judging yourself on the quality/consistancy of your process, not the score on paper. This way, your process is free to improve without the emotional baggage of the occasional "bad" shot value dragging you down to to the depths of "catastrophe"
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Re: What to Buy ? Feinwerkbau P8X vs Walther LP 500

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robjob wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:21 am Labeling shot values as inherently "good" or "bad" is BAD. When you first start out, you may label anything above 8 as "good" and below that as "bad". This trains your brain to feel that 8's are good, or at least, not bad. As you improve, you may consciously say 10s are good and 8s are bad, but your prior experience has trained your brain that 8 and 9s are good so your setting yourself up for internal conflict.

To take this a bit further, many of us unconsciously link our personal worth/value on the quality of our shooting. This sets us up for even larger failure as "good people don't shoot 'bad' shots so I must not be a 'good' shooter" because i shoot 'bad' shots". Hows that for a confidence booster from your subconscious in a match?

To go to the extreme, if your shooting 570+ and you deem 9.5 bad after years of practicing to shoot 9s and 10s, you run into the same mental issues. If you put an 8 on target, your now dealing with years of self beratement training at a critical time. That's easy to come back from, right?

I feel it's much better to judge a shot "good" by "was it on call or not". If it was, it's acceptable, regardless of where you would have preferred it to be. This way, your judging yourself on the quality/consistancy of your process, not the score on paper. This way, your process is free to improve without the emotional baggage of the occasional "bad" shot value dragging you down to to the depths of "catastrophe"
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Re: What to Buy ? Feinwerkbau P8X vs Walther LP 500

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Let me put in my vote that you should get the LP-500. And then you should paint it.
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Hmmmmm.
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deadeyedick wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:23 amHmmmmm.
So how did you remove the LP 500 & Walther from the barrel sleeve? I just got an LP 500 Expert and my lettering is chrome. It looks ok but wish it was lettered in white. On another note the new LP500’s come with two aluminum air cylinders and not one carbon fiber cylinder.
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Brazos wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:44 pm So how did you remove the LP 500 & Walther from the barrel sleeve? I just got an LP 500 Expert and my lettering is chrome. It looks ok but wish it was lettered in white. On another note the new LP500’s come with two aluminum air cylinders and not one carbon fiber cylinder.
I took off the barrel shroud and dumped some Goo Gone into the trough where the lettering is. After a few minutes the letters came up, and one or two more applications got the adhesive off. I was thinking of using them for different witty sayings, but I just like it better blank.

You're right about the carbon cylinders not being in the kit anymore, but you can still get them from Walther USA.
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Thanks. So the letters are just glued on. I would like to take them off and paint them white but getting them back on straight may be tough. The chrome isn’t too bad so may not be worth my effort. Your paint job looks great. As far as the aluminum cylinders go I am fine with it. I was hoping when I ordered the pistol I would get the new version with the two aluminum cylinders though the carbon cylinder looks great.
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The 2022 colors are in! Unfortunately my shooting sucks since coming back from finally catching the coof. In the meantime, a new lick of paint to improve my mood.
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This is how mine looks like now.

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McMadCow wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:09 pm The 2022 colors are in! Unfortunately my shooting sucks since coming back from finally catching the coof. In the meantime, a new lick of paint to improve my mood.
Hi,
What trigger you are using, if you could let us know and what benefits do you obtain with the downward slope of your trigger shoe?
Thanks.
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emre-nur wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:08 am
Hi,
What trigger you are using, if you could let us know and what benefits do you obtain with the downward slope of your trigger shoe?
Thanks.
It's an Anschutz sensive trigger. I had to modify it slightly to fit on my pistol, but it does work. I use the downward slope and cant on the trigger because my trigger finger tends to come down to the shoe, instead of across at a right angle. I'm not sure why that happens, probably something I'm doing weird to get a fit on the pistol grip. It was the same situation on the pistol I had before this one too.


EDIT: attached a photo of how my trigger finger engages the trigger.
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Re: What to Buy ? Feinwerkbau P8X vs Walther LP 500

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McMadCow wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:30 pm
emre-nur wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:08 am
Hi,
What trigger you are using, if you could let us know and what benefits do you obtain with the downward slope of your trigger shoe?
Thanks.
It's an Anschutz sensive trigger. I had to modify it slightly to fit on my pistol, but it does work. I use the downward slope and cant on the trigger because my trigger finger tends to come down to the shoe, instead of across at a right angle. I'm not sure why that happens, probably something I'm doing weird to get a fit on the pistol grip. It was the same situation on the pistol I had before this one too.


EDIT: attached a photo of how my trigger finger engages the trigger.
Hi and many thanks.
I guess this is the one
https://shop.ahg-anschuetz.de/media/ima ... 4-3_02.jpg

I might have a similar problem. The pistol drops down while going from center to sub-six as the trigger operation intensifies. It might be that the M-size grip is big for my hand, though I have sent the size of my hand to the German seller. I made some support to the palm shelf with a leather piece (upon advice from a senior member of this Forum) but not sure how much it worked.

Anyway, it feels like being able to adjust the trigger in more angles could help.
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Re: What to Buy ? Feinwerkbau P8X vs Walther LP 500

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emre-nur wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:57 am
McMadCow wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:30 pm
emre-nur wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:08 am
Hi,
What trigger you are using, if you could let us know and what benefits do you obtain with the downward slope of your trigger shoe?
Thanks.
It's an Anschutz sensive trigger. I had to modify it slightly to fit on my pistol, but it does work. I use the downward slope and cant on the trigger because my trigger finger tends to come down to the shoe, instead of across at a right angle. I'm not sure why that happens, probably something I'm doing weird to get a fit on the pistol grip. It was the same situation on the pistol I had before this one too.


EDIT: attached a photo of how my trigger finger engages the trigger.
Hi and many thanks.
I guess this is the one
https://shop.ahg-anschuetz.de/media/ima ... 4-3_02.jpg

I might have a similar problem. The pistol drops down while going from center to sub-six as the trigger operation intensifies. It might be that the M-size grip is big for my hand, though I have sent the size of my hand to the German seller. I made some support to the palm shelf with a leather piece (upon advice from a senior member of this Forum) but not sure how much it worked.

Anyway, it feels like being able to adjust the trigger in more angles could help.
And one final thing, why is my rear sight much forward in comparison to others (with much shorter sight radius)? Is it the shape of the grip or some adjustment? I haven't touched most of the adjustments yet (9 months). Some off-line coaching would help.

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Re: What to Buy ? Feinwerkbau P8X vs Walther LP 500

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It looks like you can still lower your trigger shoe to fit you better. Undo the trigger post from the bottom, and then swap out those spacers to leave the shoe at the very bottom.

As far as your rear sight, there's a hex bolt on top of the plastic housing behind the chamber. Loosen that and move your sight back. There's a scale on the rail that it slides on so you can know what distance you like.
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Re: What to Buy ? Feinwerkbau P8X vs Walther LP 500

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McMadCow wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:00 pm Let me put in my vote that you should get the LP-500. And then you should paint it.
Wow that looks fancy. Did you paint yourself? What paint you used? Epoxy spray can?
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Re: What to Buy ? Feinwerkbau P8X vs Walther LP 500

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McMadCow wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:09 pm The 2022 colors are in! Unfortunately my shooting sucks since coming back from finally catching the coof. In the meantime, a new lick of paint to improve my mood.
Is that official colour? Or you painted it too. Lol
Looks amazing by the way.
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