I have been shooting for several years now and I still haven't stopped changing things in the way I shoot.
I change my stance. First I stand angled to the target, then I stand 90 degrees to the target.
I change my weight distribution. I have my weight equally distributed on my feet, then I have most of my weight on my left foot, with my right knee bent slightly.
I change my grip. From very relaxed to firmly pulling back.
I usually stick with one method for a few weeks but everything (my scores) seems to be about the same.
Is there a preferred way of shooting or do you just pick the one that is most comfortable and keep practicing?
Do I have to find a coach or can is there a good book where I can read about proper technique?
dazzed and confused
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How do I know if I'm doing it right?
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Chris Leong
Re: How do I know if I'm doing it right?
HI Lucho
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: I have been shooting for several years now and I still haven't stopped changing things in the way I shoot.
: I change my stance. First I stand angled to the target, then I stand 90 degrees to the target.
:
: I change my weight distribution. I have my weight equally distributed on my feet, then I have most of my weight on my left foot, with my right knee bent slightly.
: I change my grip. From very relaxed to firmly pulling back.
: I usually stick with one method for a few weeks but everything (my scores) seems to be about the same.
: Is there a preferred way of shooting or do you just pick the one that is most comfortable and keep practicing?
: Do I have to find a coach or can is there a good book where I can read about proper technique?
: dazzed and confused
emotepix-at-artnet.net.44806.44805
Need a lot more information in order to commend meaningfully.
Please email me directly.
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: I have been shooting for several years now and I still haven't stopped changing things in the way I shoot.
: I change my stance. First I stand angled to the target, then I stand 90 degrees to the target.
:
: I change my weight distribution. I have my weight equally distributed on my feet, then I have most of my weight on my left foot, with my right knee bent slightly.
: I change my grip. From very relaxed to firmly pulling back.
: I usually stick with one method for a few weeks but everything (my scores) seems to be about the same.
: Is there a preferred way of shooting or do you just pick the one that is most comfortable and keep practicing?
: Do I have to find a coach or can is there a good book where I can read about proper technique?
: dazzed and confused
emotepix-at-artnet.net.44806.44805
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Chris Leong
Re: How do I know if I'm doing it right?
HI Lucho
Need a lot more information in order to comment meaningfully.
Please email me directly.
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: I have been shooting for several years now and I still haven't stopped changing things in the way I shoot.
: I change my stance. First I stand angled to the target, then I stand 90 degrees to the target.
:
: I change my weight distribution. I have my weight equally distributed on my feet, then I have most of my weight on my left foot, with my right knee bent slightly.
: I change my grip. From very relaxed to firmly pulling back.
: I usually stick with one method for a few weeks but everything (my scores) seems to be about the same.
: Is there a preferred way of shooting or do you just pick the one that is most comfortable and keep practicing?
: Do I have to find a coach or can is there a good book where I can read about proper technique?
: dazzed and confused
emotepix-at-artnet.net.44807.44805
Need a lot more information in order to comment meaningfully.
Please email me directly.
\
: I have been shooting for several years now and I still haven't stopped changing things in the way I shoot.
: I change my stance. First I stand angled to the target, then I stand 90 degrees to the target.
:
: I change my weight distribution. I have my weight equally distributed on my feet, then I have most of my weight on my left foot, with my right knee bent slightly.
: I change my grip. From very relaxed to firmly pulling back.
: I usually stick with one method for a few weeks but everything (my scores) seems to be about the same.
: Is there a preferred way of shooting or do you just pick the one that is most comfortable and keep practicing?
: Do I have to find a coach or can is there a good book where I can read about proper technique?
: dazzed and confused
emotepix-at-artnet.net.44807.44805
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Alexey
Re: How do I know if I'm doing it right?
: I have been shooting for several years now and I still haven't stopped changing things in the way I shoot.
Of course one has to change from wrong to right. But the changes should be founded in valid reasoning. No use whatsoever making arbitrary changes is the hope to strike gold.
Here I presume that you are shooting pistol using one hand grip (you should have told at least that :)).
: I change my stance. First I stand angled to the target, then I stand 90 degrees to the target.
:
This is a minor issue. You can shoot ok either way (I presume 90 degrees means that target is directly to your right; if you mean you are facing the target squarely, that's an error).
: I change my weight distribution. I have my weight equally distributed on my feet, then I have most of my weight on my left foot, with my right knee bent slightly.
Weight distribution is no experimental field. It is always equal. Knees also should be left to themselves.
: I change my grip. From very relaxed to firmly pulling back.
Good grip is neither slack nor tough. There is one fine point about a good grip: being firm enough, it is also relaxed, i.e. your fingers never cramp around the grip (and bad grip may well be simultaneously slack and cramped :)). Some also use their thumbs, which does no good. The thumb should be profoundly relaxed. While it takes a lot of careful self exploration to find your grip, it's easy to diagnose a grip problem. It's all about how your front sight sirvives the release of your shot. If your front sight just jumps and returns back instantly and and rests there firmly as if nothing ever happened, my congratulations. While dry firing, respectively, that means no front sight movement at all at the moment of release and at its close temporal proximity (before and after). If your gun is the least bit restive about shooting, your grip can use some refinement.
: I usually stick with one method for a few weeks but everything (my scores) seems to be about the same.
That is because you experiment either with the inessential things, or with the arbitrary (wrong) things.
: Is there a preferred way of shooting or do you just pick the one that is most comfortable and keep practicing?
If you found the right thing, why not keep it? But the quest is not random (see above).
: Do I have to find a coach or can is there a good book where I can read about proper technique?
By all means, find a good coach. The only problem, they are usually hard to come by, and a bad coach can be worse than none.
There are some good books, which may or may not help you. There is nothing like a good coach.
There is the AMU Pistol Shooting Manual on the Web, there are some other books, try the TT Archives.
Best egards, Alexey
Alexey931-at-list.ru.44808.44805
Of course one has to change from wrong to right. But the changes should be founded in valid reasoning. No use whatsoever making arbitrary changes is the hope to strike gold.
Here I presume that you are shooting pistol using one hand grip (you should have told at least that :)).
: I change my stance. First I stand angled to the target, then I stand 90 degrees to the target.
:
This is a minor issue. You can shoot ok either way (I presume 90 degrees means that target is directly to your right; if you mean you are facing the target squarely, that's an error).
: I change my weight distribution. I have my weight equally distributed on my feet, then I have most of my weight on my left foot, with my right knee bent slightly.
Weight distribution is no experimental field. It is always equal. Knees also should be left to themselves.
: I change my grip. From very relaxed to firmly pulling back.
Good grip is neither slack nor tough. There is one fine point about a good grip: being firm enough, it is also relaxed, i.e. your fingers never cramp around the grip (and bad grip may well be simultaneously slack and cramped :)). Some also use their thumbs, which does no good. The thumb should be profoundly relaxed. While it takes a lot of careful self exploration to find your grip, it's easy to diagnose a grip problem. It's all about how your front sight sirvives the release of your shot. If your front sight just jumps and returns back instantly and and rests there firmly as if nothing ever happened, my congratulations. While dry firing, respectively, that means no front sight movement at all at the moment of release and at its close temporal proximity (before and after). If your gun is the least bit restive about shooting, your grip can use some refinement.
: I usually stick with one method for a few weeks but everything (my scores) seems to be about the same.
That is because you experiment either with the inessential things, or with the arbitrary (wrong) things.
: Is there a preferred way of shooting or do you just pick the one that is most comfortable and keep practicing?
If you found the right thing, why not keep it? But the quest is not random (see above).
: Do I have to find a coach or can is there a good book where I can read about proper technique?
By all means, find a good coach. The only problem, they are usually hard to come by, and a bad coach can be worse than none.
There are some good books, which may or may not help you. There is nothing like a good coach.
There is the AMU Pistol Shooting Manual on the Web, there are some other books, try the TT Archives.
Best egards, Alexey
Alexey931-at-list.ru.44808.44805
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Ken J
Define "Right"
Lucho,
Yes, there's a lot of arbitrary and confounding information out there. However, keep it simple. What you're looking for is a decrease in group size. Don't use score as a true indicator of performance. Score is merely a partial indicator.
Watch for decreasing group sizes in the vertical and/or horizontal plane. Take meticulous notes IN YOUR DIARY. Look for trends and stick with what works.
Part of your year (right about now), should be dedicated to experimenting. Have a cut-off date where you draw a line in the sand for experimenting. Once that date comes, stop experimenting and begin work on refinement of the variables you've chosen. Should the refinements not work, have a bail out plan. Go back to the last thing that was your best option at the time.
Most of all, for Heaven's sake, don't keep changing things for the sake of change. One caveat here: If you're in this sport for the hobby, define what you want out of the hobby. If you like tinkering with stuff for the sake of seeing the outcome, by all means, keep doing what you're doing. Believe it or not, for some people, shooting WELL can get booring. By it's nature, if you're shooting good, you are doing exactly the same thing, every time, day in and day out, for years. Some people find that booring. That's why SOME people like to change things around. Mix it up, get the heart pumping, ride the roller coaster of performance. Uuuup, dowwwwwn. Uuuup, dowwwwn. Weeee! Fun!
On the other hand, if you're in the sport to have fun winning, well...you gotta pay your dues. And given the above paragraph, you now know what you gotta do. I leave it up to you. Pick your poison.
.44811.44805
Yes, there's a lot of arbitrary and confounding information out there. However, keep it simple. What you're looking for is a decrease in group size. Don't use score as a true indicator of performance. Score is merely a partial indicator.
Watch for decreasing group sizes in the vertical and/or horizontal plane. Take meticulous notes IN YOUR DIARY. Look for trends and stick with what works.
Part of your year (right about now), should be dedicated to experimenting. Have a cut-off date where you draw a line in the sand for experimenting. Once that date comes, stop experimenting and begin work on refinement of the variables you've chosen. Should the refinements not work, have a bail out plan. Go back to the last thing that was your best option at the time.
Most of all, for Heaven's sake, don't keep changing things for the sake of change. One caveat here: If you're in this sport for the hobby, define what you want out of the hobby. If you like tinkering with stuff for the sake of seeing the outcome, by all means, keep doing what you're doing. Believe it or not, for some people, shooting WELL can get booring. By it's nature, if you're shooting good, you are doing exactly the same thing, every time, day in and day out, for years. Some people find that booring. That's why SOME people like to change things around. Mix it up, get the heart pumping, ride the roller coaster of performance. Uuuup, dowwwwwn. Uuuup, dowwwwn. Weeee! Fun!
On the other hand, if you're in the sport to have fun winning, well...you gotta pay your dues. And given the above paragraph, you now know what you gotta do. I leave it up to you. Pick your poison.
.44811.44805
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Jay V
Re: How do I know if I'm doing it right?
: I have been shooting for several years now and I still haven't stopped changing things in the way I shoot.
: I change my stance. First I stand angled to the target, then I stand 90 degrees to the target.
(snip)
: Do I have to find a coach or can is there a good book where I can read about proper technique?
: dazzed and confused
Buy a copy of the book Ways of the Rifle. It covers many of the area that you mentioned. For each area they will show you diagrams and photos of what they feel is a "correct position", but will also include photos of current top International shooters (Debevec and others) that use positions extremely different from "the norm". The book covers many of the variables involved in 3P shooting - many that you (and I) may have never even considered.
You can get it from Pilkington or Center Shot Sports for the same price of $45. For someone really working to shoot better I can't think of a better way to spend $45 - you won't be disappointed.
Jay Vergenz
IL
www.aiac-airguns.org
jverg-at-att.net.44812.44805
: I change my stance. First I stand angled to the target, then I stand 90 degrees to the target.
(snip)
: Do I have to find a coach or can is there a good book where I can read about proper technique?
: dazzed and confused
Buy a copy of the book Ways of the Rifle. It covers many of the area that you mentioned. For each area they will show you diagrams and photos of what they feel is a "correct position", but will also include photos of current top International shooters (Debevec and others) that use positions extremely different from "the norm". The book covers many of the variables involved in 3P shooting - many that you (and I) may have never even considered.
You can get it from Pilkington or Center Shot Sports for the same price of $45. For someone really working to shoot better I can't think of a better way to spend $45 - you won't be disappointed.
Jay Vergenz
IL
www.aiac-airguns.org
jverg-at-att.net.44812.44805
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Don
Re: How do I know if I'm doing it right?
: I have been shooting for several years now and I still haven't stopped changing things in the way I shoot.
: I change my stance. First I stand angled to the target, then I stand 90 degrees to the target.
:
: I change my weight distribution. I have my weight equally distributed on my feet, then I have most of my weight on my left foot, with my right knee bent slightly.
: I change my grip. From very relaxed to firmly pulling back.
: I usually stick with one method for a few weeks but everything (my scores) seems to be about the same.
: Is there a preferred way of shooting or do you just pick the one that is most comfortable and keep practicing?
: Do I have to find a coach or can is there a good book where I can read about proper technique?
: dazzed and confused
Lucho: Contact me directly and I can put you onto some info from my library that should help.
bawilli-at-attglobal.net.44814.44805
: I change my stance. First I stand angled to the target, then I stand 90 degrees to the target.
:
: I change my weight distribution. I have my weight equally distributed on my feet, then I have most of my weight on my left foot, with my right knee bent slightly.
: I change my grip. From very relaxed to firmly pulling back.
: I usually stick with one method for a few weeks but everything (my scores) seems to be about the same.
: Is there a preferred way of shooting or do you just pick the one that is most comfortable and keep practicing?
: Do I have to find a coach or can is there a good book where I can read about proper technique?
: dazzed and confused
Lucho: Contact me directly and I can put you onto some info from my library that should help.
bawilli-at-attglobal.net.44814.44805