I own a Walther LP300, on some days when I practise I can call my shots perfectly with the gun being totally without any movement, but on other days when the gun jumps in my hand after the pellet exits the barrel and the gun moves all over the target making calling of shots quite difficult. I know this is a problem with my shooting, but cant place what it is. Please can somebody advice. Thank you.
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Calling of shots
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Michael Douglass
Re: Calling of shots
It's easy to call shots when the gun doesn't move. The true test is to be able to call those shots when the gun is moving a lot or the sights are not aligned.
If you are unable to call the shots when your gun moves a lot, you are not seeing your mistakes. You are not focusing like you should be. If you cannot see your mistakes...it is going to be hard to improve.
Becoming a better shooter is not about knowing when you shoot well. Becoming a better shooter is about knowing when you are not shooting well and then correcting it.
Michael Douglass
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If you are unable to call the shots when your gun moves a lot, you are not seeing your mistakes. You are not focusing like you should be. If you cannot see your mistakes...it is going to be hard to improve.
Becoming a better shooter is not about knowing when you shoot well. Becoming a better shooter is about knowing when you are not shooting well and then correcting it.
Michael Douglass
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Warren
Re: Calling of shots
It sounds to me like your trigger position or direction of trigger pull is not consistent. If you're seeing a jump of the sights as the shot breaks, you probably have after travel in your trigger (it moves rearward after the shot breaks), and your trigger finger is not moving straight rearward. The gun will kick to the left or right, depending on which way your trigger finger is moving.
You can do several things to correct this.
1. Take out most of the after travel by adjusting the trigger stop.
2. Take note of exactly where the trigger breaks and whether your trigger finger is in its ideal position to pull directly rearwards. You might have to move the trigger shoe to get the ideal position.
3. Take particular note of where your finger rests on the trigger shoe, and concentrate on duplicating it every time you shoot. If you are higher or lower on the shoe it will make a difference, obviously it will make a big difference if you push it further through or use the tip.
4. Use your first stage to bounce on the trigger when aligning the sights. If the sights move from side to side as you do so, you're not pulling straight back. Adjust the direction of pull until you see no movement.
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You can do several things to correct this.
1. Take out most of the after travel by adjusting the trigger stop.
2. Take note of exactly where the trigger breaks and whether your trigger finger is in its ideal position to pull directly rearwards. You might have to move the trigger shoe to get the ideal position.
3. Take particular note of where your finger rests on the trigger shoe, and concentrate on duplicating it every time you shoot. If you are higher or lower on the shoe it will make a difference, obviously it will make a big difference if you push it further through or use the tip.
4. Use your first stage to bounce on the trigger when aligning the sights. If the sights move from side to side as you do so, you're not pulling straight back. Adjust the direction of pull until you see no movement.
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Aussie Bob
Re: Calling of shots
G'day,
Have the lights come back on in the USA? <G>
I think Rustam has the correct answer to your question. I suspect you are not maintaining the same concentration levels on your "bad" days and as a result you are not seeing the sights as the shot breaks. This is the reason why your shots are all over the board on these days as well. The fact that you can shoot well and call your shots tends to suggest to me that the trigger is only a very minor consideration.
You should concentrate harder on those sights so that there is nothing in your mind than the task at hand.
Cheers from down under
Aussie Bob
blambert-at-acay.com.au.42949.42937
Have the lights come back on in the USA? <G>
I think Rustam has the correct answer to your question. I suspect you are not maintaining the same concentration levels on your "bad" days and as a result you are not seeing the sights as the shot breaks. This is the reason why your shots are all over the board on these days as well. The fact that you can shoot well and call your shots tends to suggest to me that the trigger is only a very minor consideration.
You should concentrate harder on those sights so that there is nothing in your mind than the task at hand.
Cheers from down under
Aussie Bob
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David M
Re: Calling of shots - only sometimes
Sometimes you call your shots well and on other days you don't even know where the shot went,this can be a shift of concentration .ie.taking your focus from the foresight and moving it to the target at the moment of firing.
It can also be caused by trigger control, grabbing at the trigger or concious firing.
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It can also be caused by trigger control, grabbing at the trigger or concious firing.
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Pete W
Re: Calling of shots - humorous recollection
A little off the intended subject, but funny.
Several years ago, at the NH State Highpower Team tryouts, I was using a borrowed match grade M1 Garand. The gun was incredible and I was having an "on" day. As I fired each shot, I would call it out loud. My scorer, a very new shooter was impressed as every shot came up exactly where I had called it, from the solid 8 at 12 o'clock, right down to the X at 5 o'clock. After watching this performance for half a dozen shots, he finally inquired,"If you can do that, why don't you just put them all in the middle?"
CWells4638-at-aol.com.43026.42937
Several years ago, at the NH State Highpower Team tryouts, I was using a borrowed match grade M1 Garand. The gun was incredible and I was having an "on" day. As I fired each shot, I would call it out loud. My scorer, a very new shooter was impressed as every shot came up exactly where I had called it, from the solid 8 at 12 o'clock, right down to the X at 5 o'clock. After watching this performance for half a dozen shots, he finally inquired,"If you can do that, why don't you just put them all in the middle?"
CWells4638-at-aol.com.43026.42937