Does anyone know if Diana made a pistol in the same "line" as the Diana 75 match rifle? If yes, what model is it, and how does it compare with the FWb 65 and 80 in terms of cocking effort, reliability, accuracy etc? Any information would be helpful, thanks.
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Diana target pistol and FWB target pistol
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Rustam Bana
Re: Diana target pistol and FWB target pistol
: Does anyone know if Diana made a pistol in the same "line" as the Diana 75 match rifle?
Yes. The model 6G & 6M use the same double piston system.
Haven't used them so cannot comment on the other questions.
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Yes. The model 6G & 6M use the same double piston system.
Haven't used them so cannot comment on the other questions.
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Matvei
Re: Diana target pistol and FWB target pistol
: Does anyone know if Diana made a pistol in the same "line" as the Diana 75 match rifle? If yes, what model is it, and how does it compare with the FWb 65 and 80 in terms of cocking effort, reliability, accuracy etc? Any information would be helpful, thanks.
I had in late 1970s and early 1980s Diana Model 10, which was recoiless air pistol, I guess the first of its kind. Its recoiless was achieved by a double-spring (in German Doppelkolb systeme) system. I shot quite a lot with it, and I think the model was produced under brand Gecado 10 as Diana left match shooting fields for others. You can try to find some information from the link below. The gun itself was a barrelloading system (Kipplauf), and it was a bit glumsy, because the shroud of the barrel had to be turned away before the loading was possible. And what comes to the the accuracy and reliability it worked well until I changed it to FWB2 sometimes around 1982 or so. The link is: http://www.potfire.com.au/compend/spgec10.htm
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I had in late 1970s and early 1980s Diana Model 10, which was recoiless air pistol, I guess the first of its kind. Its recoiless was achieved by a double-spring (in German Doppelkolb systeme) system. I shot quite a lot with it, and I think the model was produced under brand Gecado 10 as Diana left match shooting fields for others. You can try to find some information from the link below. The gun itself was a barrelloading system (Kipplauf), and it was a bit glumsy, because the shroud of the barrel had to be turned away before the loading was possible. And what comes to the the accuracy and reliability it worked well until I changed it to FWB2 sometimes around 1982 or so. The link is: http://www.potfire.com.au/compend/spgec10.htm
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Randy Bimrose
Re: Diana target pistol and FWB target pistol
Yes, similar, but they were 1) break barrel instead of side lever 2) employed the Giss double piston system to achieve recoillessness. The basic power plant for the Model 10 and 6 were the same. What differred was the trigger and sear setup. Diana made the Model 6 & 10. The Model 6 also showed up as an Original 6, a Geco 6, a Beeman 800 & 850, as a HyScore 816M & 826M and a Winchester 363. The Model 10 also appeared as an Original 10, a Geco 10, a Beeman 900 and a HyScore 819SM.
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Randy Bimrose
Re: Diana target pistol and FWB target pistol
Oh and I forgot the grips were different between the two.
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Wee Hooker
Re: Diana target pistol and FWB target pistol
As mentioned the modle 6M and the Modle 10 were the top of the line in recoilless spring guns. I had both. The 10 was my favorite gun untill I broke into precharged Co2 Walthers/ Styer. The 10 had much better ballance and grip angle ( more along he lines of todays 10M guns). The 10 also had a much better trigger and grip. Both features with good adjustments. I personally liked the balence and "shootability" of the 10 over the FWB 65. The 10's can still be had for $400 +/- if you ask around the net. ( Got one for a friend last year.) The 6M's are every where.
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: Does anyone know if Diana made a pistol in the same "line" as the Diana 75 match rifle? If yes, what model is it, and how does it compare with the FWb 65 and 80 in terms of cocking effort, reliability, accuracy etc? Any information would be helpful, thanks.
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: Does anyone know if Diana made a pistol in the same "line" as the Diana 75 match rifle? If yes, what model is it, and how does it compare with the FWb 65 and 80 in terms of cocking effort, reliability, accuracy etc? Any information would be helpful, thanks.
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MDriskill
Diana/Giss pistol history
As you have doubtless gleaned from the other posts, there were two basic recoilless pistol series made by Diana, the model 6 and the model 10.
The model 6 was made for many years and in many variants, being first introduced way back in 1960. It is a barrel-cocking gun with the Giss double-piston recoil-eliminating system. The trigger is the same as the model 5 sporting pistol, quite nice but not with the refinement or adjustments comparable to modern competition. Only the later model 6M has sights that are legal in competition, by the way (the early model 6, and later model 6G, have a hooded front sight). All model 6's have a rather crude click-adjusting rear sight made in plastic. Today it would have to be regarded as a target-grade, rather than a true match-grade, gun.
The model 10 came out in the late 1970's and was made for about 15 years. As Randy mentioned, it shares the barrel-cocking layout and Giss powerplant with the model 6, but is otherwise a completely new and more refined gun. It has excellent and fully adjustable grips, trigger, and sights that are quite comparable to the FWB 65. The model 10 is a wonderful gun, and easily the very best barrel-cocking spring piston air pistol ever made, period.
All the Diana pistols are quite heavy and have a rearward balance due to the heavy double-piston receiver. Due to that and the barrel-cocking mechanism, they never knocked off the fixed barrel FWB guns in top-level competition. But the model 10 in particular is a wonderful machine if it suits your shooting style, and an intriguing bit of airgun history.
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The model 6 was made for many years and in many variants, being first introduced way back in 1960. It is a barrel-cocking gun with the Giss double-piston recoil-eliminating system. The trigger is the same as the model 5 sporting pistol, quite nice but not with the refinement or adjustments comparable to modern competition. Only the later model 6M has sights that are legal in competition, by the way (the early model 6, and later model 6G, have a hooded front sight). All model 6's have a rather crude click-adjusting rear sight made in plastic. Today it would have to be regarded as a target-grade, rather than a true match-grade, gun.
The model 10 came out in the late 1970's and was made for about 15 years. As Randy mentioned, it shares the barrel-cocking layout and Giss powerplant with the model 6, but is otherwise a completely new and more refined gun. It has excellent and fully adjustable grips, trigger, and sights that are quite comparable to the FWB 65. The model 10 is a wonderful gun, and easily the very best barrel-cocking spring piston air pistol ever made, period.
All the Diana pistols are quite heavy and have a rearward balance due to the heavy double-piston receiver. Due to that and the barrel-cocking mechanism, they never knocked off the fixed barrel FWB guns in top-level competition. But the model 10 in particular is a wonderful machine if it suits your shooting style, and an intriguing bit of airgun history.
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