IZH-46M Still in production?

zanemoseley · Post by **zanemoseley** » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:39 pm

Are they still making the 46M? Its been out of stock at Pyramid for some time and Krale now has it OOS as well. I wonder if the import restrictions from Russia are making it not worth their while to import these?

shaky hands · Post by **shaky hands** » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:30 pm

Baikal store in Izhevsk still offers MP-46M to Russian customers for about $380.
http://www.tdbaikal.ru/catalog/pneumati ... rts_pistol_/

Wynne G Oldman · Post by **Wynne G Oldman** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:05 pm

It's currently available in the UK for £275.

zanemoseley · Post by **zanemoseley** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:22 pm

Wow only £275, that only about $388 USD. What shop is that? I'm not sure if you can export from the UK like the Netherlands does. Krale in the Netherlands gets them too but they'll be about $500.

kevinweiho · Post by **kevinweiho** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:45 am

Besides the Izzy, the MP-657 is inexpensive and has excellent accuracy:

http://www.imzcorp.com/en/company/321.html

Wynne G Oldman · Post by **Wynne G Oldman** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:29 am

zanemoseley wrote:Wow only £275, that only about $388 USD. What shop is that? I'm not sure if you can export from the UK like the Netherlands does. Krale in the Netherlands gets them too but they'll be about $500.

Yes, they used to cost £450 over here, until all those sanctions on Russia devalued their currency.

http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/baikal-mp-46m-177

j-team · Post by **j-team** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:19 am

kevinweiho wrote:Besides the Izzy, the MP-657 is inexpensive and has excellent accuracy:

http://www.imzcorp.com/en/company/321.html

Are these available? If so where and what price?

kevinweiho · Post by **kevinweiho** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:01 am

j-team wrote:
kevinweiho wrote:Besides the Izzy, the MP-657 is inexpensive and has excellent accuracy:

http://www.imzcorp.com/en/company/321.html
Are these available? If so where and what price?

The bad news is that this particular model is only available in Russia. The price there is around $100 USD more or less.
I am not spoiled by the first tier air pistols that I have, and I enjoy shooting my Beeman P17 more often than not.

Sometimes, inexpensive well made pistols can give the brand names a run for its money.

poogi · Post by **poogi** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:17 pm

kevinweiho wrote:Besides the Izzy, the MP-657 is inexpensive and has excellent accuracy:

http://www.imzcorp.com/en/company/321.html

for around $100 thats a nice looking pistol

PhatMan · Post by **PhatMan** » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:53 am

Hello to All,

While we can buy the MP-46M in the UK for a very good price, we cannot, for love or money get any of the seals.

The enclosed seal pack that comes with the pistol does not contain the valve seal.

The importers cannot help either.

Attempts to buy seals from the USA have proved fruitless - one vendor wanted 55 USD to send three seal sets to the UK, and refused to send them standard mail in a Jiffy bag, even though I gave them a risk waiver. Even though I ultimately gave in to the 55USD shipping, they then said they didn't accept Visa Cards from 'foreign countries'.

Attempts to buy a well known 'valve replacement' from the USA failed also - 65 USD down the drain.

So when the valve seal goes on my pistol, I will either have to buy another pistol or get creative :)

I know that at least five (5) of my friends have not bought the MP-46M due to the lack of 'consumables'.

Have fun & a good Sunday,

Best regards

Russ

Wynne G Oldman · Post by **Wynne G Oldman** » Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:19 am

PhatMan wrote:Hello to All,

While we can buy the MP-46M in the UK for a very good price, we cannot, for love or money get any of the seals.

The enclosed seal pack that comes with the pistol does not contain the valve seal.

The importers cannot help either.

Attempts to buy seals from the USA have proved fruitless - one vendor wanted 55 USD to send three seal sets to the UK, and refused to send them standard mail in a Jiffy bag, even though I gave them a risk waiver. Even though I ultimately gave in to the 55USD shipping, they then said they didn't accept Visa Cards from 'foreign countries'.

Attempts to buy a well known 'valve replacement' from the USA failed also - 65 USD down the drain.

So when the valve seal goes on my pistol, I will either have to buy another pistol or get creative :)

I know that at least five (5) of my friends have not bought the MP-46M due to the lack of 'consumables'.

Have fun & a good Sunday,

Best regards

Russ

Have you tried York Guns? They have sold me seals and spares in the past. They don't have them on their website, but you could ring and ask if they still do them.

SamEEE · Post by **SamEEE** » Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:09 pm

65 dollars seems quite reasonable for shipping a large marine mammal.

PhatMan · Post by **PhatMan** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:02 am

Wayne,

I tried York Guns & the 'Sportsman Gun Centre' - no luck.

I will try again though !

Have fun :)

Best regards

Russ

PhatMan · Post by **PhatMan** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:03 am

SamEEE,

LOL :)

Have fun :)

Best regards

Russ

SamEEE · Post by **SamEEE** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:02 am

Wrong seal, my mistake.

PhatMan · Post by **PhatMan** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:16 am

Wayne,

Many thanks :) York Guns have come through - they have the valve seal ('lock') :)

Oddly, 'Sportsman Gun Centre', who are now the 'official' importer, do not keep spares for the MP-46M !

Have fun :)

Best regards

Russ

Gwhite · Post by **Gwhite** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:20 am

PhatMan wrote:Oddly, 'Sportsman Gun Centre', who are now the 'official' importer, do not keep spares for the MP-46M !

I spoke with the chief airgunsmith for the main US importer a couple years ago. Even before US-Russian relations went south, they had trouble getting parts. They had to do a lot of repairs by cannibalizing warranty returns that were unfixable. Apparently a common issue was that the barrels were installed crooked.

Rover · Post by **Rover** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:04 am

A good enough agricultural implement for the serfs at the gulag.

Probably just a holdover from those twisty TOZ FPs.

Wynne G Oldman · Post by **Wynne G Oldman** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:51 am

PhatMan wrote:Wayne,

Many thanks :) York Guns have come through - they have the valve seal ('lock') :)

Oddly, 'Sportsman Gun Centre', who are now the 'official' importer, do not keep spares for the MP-46M !

Have fun :)

Best regards

Russ

You're welcome Russ. I also tried The Sportsman Gun Centre, and all they did was email IZH. I knew that wasn't going to work, because I'd already tried that. I eventually got a reply from IZH around 3 months later. They recommended a few gun shops across Europe, who ignored my emails. York Guns was the only place that I could find who sold spares. I found their service to be very good, and reasonably priced.

PhatMan · Post by **PhatMan** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:59 am

Wayne,

York Guns service was excellent - as was the price for the valve seal :)

I am now most heartened that one of my favourite pistols will continue to shoot well into the future.

Many thanks again :)

Have fun & a good weekend :)

Best regards

Russ

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