Weight compared LPM, FWB100, IZH46M, LP-@, LP2, LP10, FW103

[David W. Johnson]

Because I have them all and thought to compare them.

Thought someone might find it interesting.

David

[David Levene]

Makes me wonder whether anyone has an ISSF Air Pistol approaching anywhere near the 1500g weight limit.

[seamaster]

Wow, Wow, Wow !!

How do they compete against each other? What are their shooting idiosyncrasies?

[David W. Johnson]

I'm not sure how qualified I am to evaluate them, but I'll try to sit down and compare features.

David

[Afsocwx]

Very nice collection. I know how the IZH 46m balances, but wonder how the others balance in comparison? Are they all muzzle heavy?

[David W. Johnson]

The IZH and FWB are muzzle heavy. I moved away from the IZH because the grip does not have enough angle for me to lock out my wrist. The FWB is adjustable and helped. The LPM is still a bit muzzle heavy, but not as bad. The LP-@ is not at all.

David

[David W. Johnson]

I took the weight off the LP-@ and weighed it today. 960 grams.

David

[tinky]

David

The grip angle on the FWB and LPM1 looks more pronounced than the other two in the first picture.Is the front end weight affected by this grip and the "locked wrist"position?Both of the before mentioned pistols would suit me better than the LP@ or 46M.I have a difficult time shooting the military grip angle pistols;can't seem to keep the side wiggle corralled without locking my wrist.Anxious to meet Fannie.

Bill

[David W. Johnson]

I bought Fannie primarily for the steeper angle on the grip. It is adjustable. It is at the greatest angle allowed by the mechanism in this picture. The IZH angle is too close to 90 degrees for me. I had the same problem you are describing. The LPM is also good with the angle. I love my Annie (Anschutz LP-@) but wish I could get just a bit more angle out of the handle. When I got it perfect, it threw my sights off. I finally realized that I had adjusted the grip until the wood was pressing up on the bottom of the rear sight and had to adjust it back. If I could find another grip, I would be willing to remove wood to make it work out, but I hate modifying a perfectly good grip.

David

[Rover]

"I would be willing to remove wood to make it work out, but I hate modifying a perfectly good grip."

We all have problems that confound our daily lives.

[David Levene]

If I could find another grip, I would be willing to remove wood to make it work out, but I hate modifying a perfectly good grip.

If it needs wood removing then it's not a "perfectly good grip". If it doesn't fit you then it's a bad grip.

[rmca]

I love my Annie (Anschutz LP-@) but wish I could get just a bit more angle out of the handle. When I got it perfect, it threw my sights off. I finally realized that I had adjusted the grip until the wood was pressing up on the bottom of the rear sight and had to adjust it back.

You just need longer screws. So that the gun "sits" higher in the grip and the back does not touch the sights. They are simple counter sunk screw M3x8 (Part 26). That is a 3 mm diameter and 8 mm long. Just get longer ones.

Hope this helps

[ghostrip]

longer screws will do the trick but since grip was not designed with such extreme rake one should always check that barrel axis stay above grip curve

[David Levene]

longer screws will do the trick but since grip was not designed with such extreme rake one should always check that barrel axis stay above grip curve

Under ISSF rules that is only a requirement for 25m Pistols.

[David W. Johnson]

Thanks for the comments.

Rover, thanks for the chuckle. Great perspective.

David, I stand corrected on my definition of 'perfectly good grip'. You are correct.

I'll see if I can get the screws from Anschutz. They list lots of parts on egun.de and I have purchased several things directly from them.

All of the advice is much appreciated.

David

[ghostrip]

longer screws will do the trick but since grip was not designed with such extreme rake one should always check that barrel axis stay above grip curve

Under ISSF rules that is only a requirement for 25m Pistols.

david thanks for pointing out. for some reason i thought the rule applied also to 10m air pistol.
And this makes me wonder. If there is no limit to how high the grip can be why manufacturers
don't make use of it and make air pistols a bit like free pistols ?

edit : just remembered the only air pistol that had such low barrel axis was the late fas 606

[rmca]

The main reason for a low bore is so that recoil goes more straight into your arm, instead of making the gun pivot and the muzzle rize.

You have so little recoil in air pistol that it doesn't make much difference.
A very steep angle on the grip doesn't necessarily help you... it depends on the shooter.

Hope this helps

[David W. Johnson]

Got an LP2 Compact for the wife. 807 with cylinder. 650 without. Very light and feels lighter because of the shorter cylinder and barrel giving less leverage to the muzzle.

[william]

"807 with cylinder. 650 without."

Pardon the snark (digested too many of Rover's posts) - is there a more useless number than the weight of an air gun without cylinder?

[David W. Johnson]

Eh. Maybe not. I just find the difference between the weight of the cylinders of passing interest. I also wondered if the advertised weight and what my scale said would match up. One of the statistics I found when researching this pistol was the weight without cylinder. Once site cited it as the lightest of match pistols.

Then, there's the possibility of placing a short cylinder on a full sized gun for the difference in weight and balance.

Like I said, the whole thing is just in case anyone has an interest.

By the way...it shoots 10s just fine. Significantly louder than my LP-@ and a slight muzzle flip, but still fun and accurate.

David