1907 vs 1913 - question of weight

Moderators: pilkguns, Marcus, m1963, David Levene, Spencer

Post Reply
nester
Posts: 78
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:43 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

1907 vs 1913 - question of weight

Post by nester »

I am looking for the prone and some 3P rifle.
Choosing between 1907 and 1913 - in aluminum stock 1918.

Currently I use (for prone only) - Match 54 with heavy barrel and wooden prone stock 1411.
My current total weight with sights - exactly 5 kg (11lb).
I really don't want to go heavier even for prone. (I can't survive more than 40-45 minutes in position, after that my left arm is gray and dead). I know that wooden stock is slightly lighter, but I don't want to sacrifice alu adjustments as well...


The question is - are there some disadvantages using 1907 barrel over 1913? Stock is the same - aluminum 1918. (Most likely I'll add carbon fiber extension tube, so barrel length - 660 or 690mm would not matter much). E.g. if it's less accurate, etc, etc..?


About weight:
Looking at the Anschutz catalog - 1907 barreled action is 0.6 kg (1.3 lb) lighter than 1913.
Here are the numbers:
1907 in stock 1918: 2.5kg+2.3kg=4.8kg (10.6 lb)
1913 in stock 1918: 3.1kg+2.3kg=5.4kg (11.9 lb)

BUT, at the same time their catalog shows complete rifles without sights (see page 29):
1907+1918: 5.6 kg (12.4 lb)
1913+1918: 5.8 kg (12.8 lb)

How they made those numbers?
There are definite mistakes in 2013/690 rifle - they listed it as 6.2kg/12.4lb which is obviously wrong (must be 13.7lb). So I think catalog page 29 number are wrong.

Catalog: 1st one here: http://jga.anschuetz-sport.com/index.ph ... &sprache=1

Or, if there are any other recommendations?
E.g. it's really beneficial to use heavy rifle in prone and positions - so work out more, etc?..
bpscCheney
Posts: 187
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:11 pm
Location: Wisconsin

Post by bpscCheney »

The Walther Anatomic is a wood stocked gun with all of the aluminum gun parts, only problem is they're quite expensive.
Tim S
Posts: 2054
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:33 am
Location: Taunton, Somerset

Post by Tim S »

Nester,

I don't thin k there is any disadvanatg to using the 1907. The 1907 and 1913 are made to the same standards. Use whichever is more comfortable for you. Remember you can add weight to a 1907 barrel quite easily, but it's much harder to make a 1913 lighter.

If it's any help, you are not using a heavy Match 54 barrel. The photos you have previously posted clearly show the lighter 1407 barrel rather than the heavier 1411. A new 1907 barrel will weigh pretty much the same as the one you have now. You say you find this just about right, so a 1913 would be too heavy.

I wouldn't worry too much about the difference in the published weights. A 1907/1918 may be a little heavier than your 1407/1411, but it should fit and balance better. In the 1918 stock the action is mounted about 2-3cm further back than in your 1411. This will improve the balance as there is less barrel/dead weight in front of your left hand.

Tim
nester
Posts: 78
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:43 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by nester »

ok, thank you Tim!

Yes, I think that as well - most people will never notice the difference between 1907 and 1913 accuracy wise, but initial lower weight always gives the option to add it if/when needed.
So I'll go for 1907.
Post Reply