Recoil buffers?

Bullseye58 · Post by **Bullseye58** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:35 am

I am curious what our experienced bullseye/ EIC competitors think about the use/necessity of recoil buffers in the .45 service pistol? Thanks.

yana · Post by **yana** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:29 am

I had a guide rod with integrated buffer in my Taurus. Ok, it was a 9mm, but besides that, I didnt like it.
Recoil felt very awkward, felt like it bounced, it was harsher, and it had some failures during shooting which it normally néver had.
So I ditched it. What I do nów, is simply exchange the original recoil spring regularly. Maybe slightly tougher spring if its know to be weak.
(and exchange any factory buffers ofcourse).

GunRunner · Post by **GunRunner** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:52 am

If you need a buffer with bullseye loads your recoil spring is too weak, change it to a higher rate one pound at a time till it fails to cycle properly then go back down to the one that cycles the gun 100% with your load. buffers are for full on factory loads that can batter a frame even with the strongest spring.

ghillieman · Post by **ghillieman** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:29 am

Got one on my hardball gun, it takes out the sharp slap of the slide hitting the frame, paired it with a 20 pound Wolff spring.

1911nut · Post by **1911nut** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:33 pm

A buffer can help with the felt shock of recoil in a target gun. You just need to monitor it so it doesn't shred or degrade which can bind up the gun.
I got a load from NSK that is only a little more felt recoil than a wadcutter load.

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Using a 20 lb recoil spring is way too heavy, the standard 16lb spring is fine, a heavier spring puts stress on the frame and slide going into battery. It's slamming the slide forward.

A standard 23 lb mainspring aka hammer spring can help if yours is lighter.
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ghillieman · Post by **ghillieman** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:58 am

No, I went through several springs before going with the 20 pound spring. It was recommended by a veteran BE shooter who is DD.

1911nut · Post by **1911nut** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:02 pm

ghillieman,
sounds like you got a set-up that works for you.

The size of the radius/bevel on the firing pin stop (FPS) also has an effect on the felt recoil. I've fitted an EGW oversize FPS with very small radius on my ball gun and a Colt I use for full power loads. I could detect a difference but it was slight.

Here's a thead on it:
http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t ... fps+recoil

haresdehan · Post by **haresdehan** » Wed May 02, 2012 5:36 am

A recoil buffer is a factory-installed or aftermarket component of firearms which serves to reduce the velocity and/or cushion the impact of recoilling parts of a firearm.

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Greg Derr · Post by **Greg Derr** » Thu May 03, 2012 8:44 pm

Recoil buffers have been around for a while, they came out before the debut of the recoil spring selection we now have. The 1/8th inch you lose in slide travel can be an issue and the eventual break down of the rubber can cause a jam. They are not needed, but like the FLGR if you feel better with it, use it.

keith · Post by **keith** » Fri May 04, 2012 7:09 pm

I use one in my wad gun ...not that its really needed but it cant hurt anything.....In my carry .45 I will use one at the range when shooting full house defensive ammo ...but when I carry I dont have one in the gun...