Likelihood of Synthetic Materials in Clothing Being Banned?

Dave IRL · Post by **Dave IRL** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:14 pm

Just curious as I'm going to be buying a new shooting suit in the next few months. One source has cautioned about the possibility of the ISSF banning the use of elastomers in shooting clothing after the next Olympics. I thought this had been dealt with and wasn't likely to be an issue? Obviously if there are going to be problems I'd want to go with a more traditional build, but I don't want to shell out and be told in a year that the suit can't be used anymore. So what's the current status of this and what's the perceived likelihood of a move to ban the materials?

Orpanaut · Post by **Orpanaut** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:15 pm

Why would the ISSF want to ban elastomers in shooting clothing?

Dave IRL · Post by **Dave IRL** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:22 pm

A fabulously excellent question. Idle hands and all that.

RobStubbs · Post by **RobStubbs** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:15 am

I have no feelings for them banning clothing, or not but I equally don't recall anything being discussed saying they were looking at it. I personally don't think you can second guess what they are looking at banning or changing. They could (as has been discussed) change the thickness rules - which would mess up almost everyone (who shoots ISSF rules).

One thing you can do is write to them and ask the question. They may give you an answer on what they are considering, or they may not. No harm though in asking the question.

Rob.

JSBmatch · Post by **JSBmatch** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:34 am

There may be changes to clothing/shoe regs in the pipeline, but my guess is they won't do anything until after 2012 Olympics.

I cannot see synthetic clothing containing elstomers being banned as long as it meets the thickness/stiffness tests.

There has also been some talk about boot stiffness and suggestions that the sole should be more flexible, but again, I don't think any thing has been implemented yet due to the Olympics.

Before any such change to clothing regulations, all the manufacturers have to be given fair notice of the changes by the ISSF. Might be an idea to ask one of the manufacturers if they have been issued new instructions on clothing regs and is there an implementation date?

JSB

Spencer · Post by **Spencer** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:44 am

JSBmatch wrote:...There has also been some talk about boot stiffness and suggestions that the sole should be more flexible, but again, I don't think any thing has been implemented yet due to the Olympics.JSB

http://www.issf-sports.org/getfile.aspx ... &file=Rule enforcement Shoe flexibility testing ENG V1.pdf

JSBmatch · Post by **JSBmatch** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:19 am

Thanks Spencer

I was a bit out of date with the shoe regs. I don't think my Corami boots would pass the new test but I have yet to have them tested. may be at the next British championships. They sole is very stiff.

JSB

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:13 pm

International swimming had to make changes to their clothing rules to level the playing field. Shooting will likely do the same thing. There are synthetic clothing materials that pass the current stiffness and thickness tests, but become very stiff when formed in the shape of a cylinder (such as the shape a jacket has when worn). These materials are so stiff that they will support the weight of an adult shooter when formed in a cylinder. This violates the spirit of the rules and could give some shooters/nations an unfair advantage. The easiest way to deal with it would be to ban the use of synthetic materials in jackets/pants and only allow canvas and leather. I have no knowledge of any pending changes, but something needs to be done.

RobStubbs · Post by **RobStubbs** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:20 am

JSBmatch wrote:Thanks Spencer

I was a bit out of date with the shoe regs. I don't think my Corami boots would pass the new test but I have yet to have them tested. may be at the next British championships. They sole is very stiff.

JSB

Coramis are I think the closest to the stiffness test but I think they were passing at Munich in the world cup - certainly the corami pistol shoes passed.

Another thing is that the test rig is for now just the one, although no doubt national bodies will in due course get their own rigs. For the British Championships (I assume you mean airgun in Feb) they may or may not have anything and could just test by hand...

Before any such change to clothing regulations, all the manufacturers have to be given fair notice of the changes by the ISSF. Might be an idea to ask one of the manufacturers if they have been issued new instructions on clothing regs and is there an implementation date?

New rules will not come in mid olympic cycle, but the ISSF have been a bit sneaky by applying interim interpretations of existing rules mid cycle. So the materials could be banned under an 'interpretation' if they saw fit - I would be very suprised though.

Rob.

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