Hi all,
I just purchased the Remington 40x with HB from CMP. I picked up a bolt from precision and a jewel trigger. Has anyone tried out the tube gun? They make a stock for the model 54 so I was wondering if anyone here has one and what they think of it.
Thank You
Pat
Looking for input on the Tube guns.
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I've got an AN-1 with a 1963-production 54 in it.
I really like it. The barrel in it is extremely heavy, so it's a bit cumbersome offhand, but that's not the stock's problem.
The floating action installation method seems to benefit quite a bit from a tuner, like the one Eliseo sells. Also, you'll want a very tall front sight--I use a 22mm tunnel/ladder assembly made by Riles, I think. (Bought it from White Oak Arms)
Since I've never been able to get comfortable behind a conventional wooden stock, I really like the fit of the tube gun. On the down side, it comes with a flat buttplate and the pistol grip is just a normal AR-15 grip (I covered one in Bondo until it was the size and shape I wanted--that worked pretty well. And if you screw it up, another A2 pistol grip is less than $10).
If you'll want to put a more normal smallbore buttplate on it, talk to Gary (the manufacturer) about it. He can shorten the length of pull a bit (so it doesn't end up really long when you add the buttplate thickness) and give you a buttplate that will be easier to attach the buttplate carrier of your choice to.
Any specific questions about it? I'm more than happy to answer them.
I really like it. The barrel in it is extremely heavy, so it's a bit cumbersome offhand, but that's not the stock's problem.
The floating action installation method seems to benefit quite a bit from a tuner, like the one Eliseo sells. Also, you'll want a very tall front sight--I use a 22mm tunnel/ladder assembly made by Riles, I think. (Bought it from White Oak Arms)
Since I've never been able to get comfortable behind a conventional wooden stock, I really like the fit of the tube gun. On the down side, it comes with a flat buttplate and the pistol grip is just a normal AR-15 grip (I covered one in Bondo until it was the size and shape I wanted--that worked pretty well. And if you screw it up, another A2 pistol grip is less than $10).
If you'll want to put a more normal smallbore buttplate on it, talk to Gary (the manufacturer) about it. He can shorten the length of pull a bit (so it doesn't end up really long when you add the buttplate thickness) and give you a buttplate that will be easier to attach the buttplate carrier of your choice to.
Any specific questions about it? I'm more than happy to answer them.
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Tube Guns for Position Shooting
I have one and like it a lot, BUT...
You've have to get completely out of position for loading every shot in Prone or Kneeling. Off Hand / Standing isn't bad, but you'll also have to open the loading port up quite a bit to get your big fingers holding a tiny .22 into the area to load it. It's fine for HighPower, but not really suitable for Smallbore Position work as far as I'm concerned.
Roy McClain
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You've have to get completely out of position for loading every shot in Prone or Kneeling. Off Hand / Standing isn't bad, but you'll also have to open the loading port up quite a bit to get your big fingers holding a tiny .22 into the area to load it. It's fine for HighPower, but not really suitable for Smallbore Position work as far as I'm concerned.
Roy McClain
http://www.OleMillRangeCTC.com
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Roy,
I use a shorter-than-normal length of pull, and have longer-than-normal arms (6'4"), so loading hasn't been an issue for me. Kneeling can be a bit tough when the case doesn't eject. (the action in my stock has the old single extractor that doesn't always eject reliably, especially with the cant I use kneeling) But I can load it from the shoulder just fine, even fishing an un-ejected case out of the action without breaking position.
If you have short arms though, it's probably something to consider. Also, while we're complaining, I loathe the hand stop it comes with--I much prefer the tiny little button-style ones. I've got several centerfire tube guns and I always have Gary keep the hand stop, and use the cost of it for the modifications I have him do to the stock. (Thinned buttstock hanger to shorten length of pull, Anschutz forend rail cut, part of the trigger guard removed, and a buttplate that I can attach a proper smallbore buttplate to)
Despite the things I change, I really like my tube gun stock, especially since I have it set up the same way as my center fire prone guns. (And very similar to my space gun for across-the-course shooting)
I use a shorter-than-normal length of pull, and have longer-than-normal arms (6'4"), so loading hasn't been an issue for me. Kneeling can be a bit tough when the case doesn't eject. (the action in my stock has the old single extractor that doesn't always eject reliably, especially with the cant I use kneeling) But I can load it from the shoulder just fine, even fishing an un-ejected case out of the action without breaking position.
If you have short arms though, it's probably something to consider. Also, while we're complaining, I loathe the hand stop it comes with--I much prefer the tiny little button-style ones. I've got several centerfire tube guns and I always have Gary keep the hand stop, and use the cost of it for the modifications I have him do to the stock. (Thinned buttstock hanger to shorten length of pull, Anschutz forend rail cut, part of the trigger guard removed, and a buttplate that I can attach a proper smallbore buttplate to)
Despite the things I change, I really like my tube gun stock, especially since I have it set up the same way as my center fire prone guns. (And very similar to my space gun for across-the-course shooting)
you can try asking these guys. There are two manufacturers in the U.S. I know ofVlad wrote:Does someone know, can you buy anykind Tubegun stock from (or to) Europe?
http://www.competitionshootingstuff.com/index.html
http://www.tubegun.net/
You can send them en e-mail and inquire.
Pat
US makers cant ship stocks out of the country very easy anymore due to export restrictions.
hddriver1 wrote:you can try asking these guys. There are two manufacturers in the U.S. I know ofVlad wrote:Does someone know, can you buy anykind Tubegun stock from (or to) Europe?
http://www.competitionshootingstuff.com/index.html
http://www.tubegun.net/
You can send them en e-mail and inquire.
Pat
Eliseo (competition shooting stuff) is exporting stocks to Australia. But at least one UK shooter (Laurie Holland, or something similar, I believe) who is a huge fan of the Eliseo stocks hasn't been able to get any more of them for quite some time. He got one for a Barnard action, but very shortly after, the exports were pretty much stopped.