Lock time FWB P700 vs Ans 1813/1913 ??

[styles]

I was wondering what the lock times were for either rifles if anyone knows and if the potential difference between the two could lead to interesting differences in ones internal "shot timing".

[TerryKuz]

I would bet an air rifle like the 700 had twice the "shot time" of a 22 like the 1913. As I recall, the dominant time issue would be the speed of the projectile.

[Soupy44]

In my experience, the only gun where the lock time was noticably slow was the FWB 300. I shot that for a while and then a 600. That was an interesting jump. But the jump from a 600 to a 2002 I didn't notice much.

[westerngriz]

This reminds me of when i shot Service Rifle. The lock time on my service rifle is about ten years long (i think about 6 milliseconds) and the lock time on a tubb 200 is about 1.6 milliseconds.

[Guest]

My friend and I who happen to shoot the same combination of rifles, by chance 1813 and 1913 and both use P700's just seem to notice that when our small bore is "on" then in air we feel like our trigger pull is just not right like just a little bit out of sync or timing.

[Guest]

anyone know if the lock times for the anschutz air rifles are the same as Anschutz smallbore rifles

[Bowman26]

With all the cheap optical sensor technology I am surprised no one has built a rig to detect the sear breaking and time it up to the moment it exits the muzzle. Perhaps Anschutz does this but doesn't release the data.

All that being said I have a 1712 and it is quicker IMO than my 8002 S2. When a pin strikes the rim of a round the bullet starts moving. With a air rifle when you release the striker it opens a valve than then ports air into the breech then the pellet starts moving. So alot more going on the airgun while all fast it adds time. Then you figure the velocity is nearly 2:1 even with a slightly longer barrel the bullet leaves before the air rifle with the short barrel inside the tube.

The times are not going to be to far apart but I think what you are experiencing is to be expected when you shoot your rifles enough you just know. The .22 seems to go right where I break and call the shot. While the 8002 with the slightly longer dwell time makes it feel like I can push the pellet off just a bit while following through poorly. Sometimes this works out and you push it back into the bull. This is probably why they consider air rifle about the best shootin practice you can really do. All the mechanics for shooting pretty much anything all translates so well. If you can hold and hit with an airgun so long as your not flinchy you can shoot anything well in short order.

Edit: If I build such a rig to measure this time span I wonder if all the manufacturers would send me rifles to test ;) I'd bet there would be alot of interest out there in having a diffinitive data set of each models time.

Bo

[Guest]

great input and good post but I wonder if the rifle companies dont want that advertised in fear of one being better than the other
I think your right that we are just experiencing the need to follow through longer and smoother in air than in smallbore.