LP10e v. LP50e

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:51 am

Since they both have the same trigger, what is the advantage of the LP10e over the LP50e for regular slow-fire events? Is it the cycling action of the LP50 that makes it less desirable? I know in the mechanical versions the LP10 trigger was much better than the LP50, but that advantage doesn't apply to the "e" versions.

Makris D. G. · Post by **Makris D. G.** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:10 am

The LP50E does not have the absorber of its single shot brother.
However the recocking action is balanced (according to Steyr)
to provide a similar effect.
The LP50E consumes more air than the LP10E.

superstring · Post by **superstring** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:26 am

Doesn't the LP50e have a single stage trigger and the LP10e a 2 stage?

Cones · Post by **Cones** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:51 am

The LP50e and LP10e triggers are the same. They are both two stage.

The LP50e is a vast improvement over the LP50 trigger.

HTH

Mark

Makris D. G. · Post by **Makris D. G.** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:47 am

Other than the lack of an overtravel stop,
the LP10E/LP50E can be set up as single stage.

David Levene · Post by **David Levene** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:12 am

Makris D. G. wrote:Other than the lack of an overtravel stop,
the LP10E/LP50E can be set up as single stage.

Do you need an overtravel stop on an electronic trigger.

There is no sudden reduction in trigger weight when the shot breaks so no associated rapid trigger finger movement.

David Levene · Post by **David Levene** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:57 am

The Steyr web page for the LP50E says "Proven and patented STEYR stabilizer made out of tungsten alloy (TRIAMET)".

Surely that's not right for the LP50E, is it? If it is, it really would make it even more tempting.

Makris D. G. · Post by **Makris D. G.** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:18 am

edited

Makris D. G. · Post by **Makris D. G.** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:32 am

David Levene wrote:The Steyr web page for the LP50E says "Proven and patented STEYR stabilizer made out of tungsten alloy (TRIAMET)".

Surely that's not right for the LP50E, is it? If it is, it really would make it even more tempting.

No mention of tungsten stabilizer in the LP50E manual intro though

TomAmlie · Post by **TomAmlie** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:17 pm

David Levene wrote:The Steyr web page for the LP50E says "Proven and patented STEYR stabilizer made out of tungsten alloy (TRIAMET)".

Surely that's not right for the LP50E, is it? If it is, it really would make it even more tempting.

I think Steyr copied the text from their LP10e operator's manual by mistake. Their LP50e operator's manual touts the regulator where the LP10e manual mentions the stabilizer.

superstring · Post by **superstring** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:19 pm

Cones wrote:The LP50e and LP10e triggers are the same. They are both two stage.......

Mark

Makris D. G. wrote:Other than the lack of an overtravel stop,
the LP10E/LP50E can be set up as single stage.

Maybe I'm missing something, but Steyr says (referring to the LP50e) "Although the 500g trigger pull is now an ISSF rule for the 5-shot discipline you still have unlimited adjustment within the 500g rules."

This doesn't sound like a 2 stage trigger which "can be set up as a single stage"?? Does it mean that, as soon as you start adjusting the pull wieght, it becomes a 2 stage?

Makris D. G. · Post by **Makris D. G.** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:54 pm

Unlimited adjustment refers to the ratio between first and second stage, a typical ratio is 400gr first 100gr second stage.
If you lower the second stage to zero (or as close as it can go) and crank up the first stage to 500, you have a single stage trigger.

superstring · Post by **superstring** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:13 pm

Aha! Thanks for the clarification. :-)

TomAmlie · Post by **TomAmlie** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:47 pm

Is the weight regulated by springs as in a Morini or Matchgun? If so, it would be nice to supply heavier springs so people can get to 1,000 grams to mimic the triggers on their cartridge pistols.

Makris D. G. · Post by **Makris D. G.** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:28 am

https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B6 ... y=CLiQ3sUN

Check out page 11 to see how the trigger settings work.
Did you have a method using something other than springs in mind?

David Levene · Post by **David Levene** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:07 am

David Levene wrote:The Steyr web page for the LP50E says "Proven and patented STEYR stabilizer made out of tungsten alloy (TRIAMET)".

Surely that's not right for the LP50E, is it? If it is, it really would make it even more tempting.

I emailed Steyr about this and, as I think we all suspected, they admitted that they had made a mistake on the web page. What a surprise, it's now been corrected.

They also said "The motion of the 5-shot-magazine has the same effect as the stabilizer in the LP 10 (E). So there is no additional stabilizer necessary." I think they were actually talking about the re-cocking action (as previously commented on by Makris D.G.) but that's no problem. Having had an LP5 for about 13 years I have always been surprised at how little it recoils (even though the velocity is turned up so that when I hit one of the plates in the 5-Target event they stay hit). I suspected that the re-cocking action might be responsible.