Morini 162E Triggger adjustment question

[imoXu]

Long time lurker and fan of the forum, and since everyone seems to get their questions answered I thought I would try.

New Morini 162E air pistol. Love it.
The question is this...
In the manual under trigger adjustment it refers to 4 adjustments. No problem with any of this.

Id take a photo but Im too stupid.

On the piece that the trigger can slide along the manual shows 1 screw (labelled #1) that adjusts trigger travel. works fine

On my gun, but not shown in the manual as far as I can tell, there are two screws on this peice. One where adjusmtent screw #1 is and another futher along that same piece but behind the trigger.

What does this screw do??

The real reason I ask is that one of the guys I shoot with has an older version of the same pistol. His stopped firing last night and I noticed this screw was much further out than mine. It got me looking up the manual to see what it does but I cant find anything. Or does it just hold the pistol together?

clues?

Dan

[Steve Swartz as Guest]

Dan:

I'll give it a try- I haven't commented yet because I have no idea what screw you are talking about . . . you mention that the screw you are talking about is not on the diagram in your owner's manual? That seems odd. I know the morini diagram isn't the easiest thing in the world to interpret.

Can you give me a better description of where the screw is located with respect to the parts nearby that *are* in the manual? Using the specific words used by the manual?

You are right . . . a picture would be good . . . you could send me a jpg to my home email address leslieswartz@verizon.net if you can; that would be easier than trying to PM it (especially if you aren't a registered user!)

[David M]

The electronic trigger has four adjustments (three visible externally).
On the trigger rail is the trigger travel screw for travel length.
Below the trigger are two set screws on the spring arms, one is the first stage weight, the other the second stage weight.
The final screw is a vertical micro switch/let off screw, only to be adjusted if the pistol malfunctions (need to disassemble the pistol to adjust).
Leave this one for someone that knows what they are doing......
The other adjustment on the back of the grip frame is the velocity screw, again only adjust if malfunction occurs (using a chronograph).

[Tony C.]

Do you mean the screw on the trigger blade itself? #4 in the manual?

If thats the one you are refering, its for positioning the trigger blade on the trigger bar.

Not sure if thats what you mean, but hope this help.

Tony

[imoXu]

these images should make it a bit more clear.
thanks for the replies, I was getting worried ;)

Dan

[imoXu]

just wanted to add that the hole/screw I am pointing at in the photo looks empty or crewed in a lot.
On my mates pistol that has stopped firing consistently there is a grub screw protruding from this hole about 1 mm.

Thanks again

Dan

[Tycho]

Hm, my Morinis don't have that screw behind the trigger, and it's not on the drawing, either. If I had to make a guess, I'd say that it is a trigger stop, as I think there is nothing useful right above that screw...

[David M]

Refering to the picture-
The screw in front of the trigger blade is total trigger travel.
The screw in trigger allows the trigger to move for/aft.
The hole behind the trigger is theaded and is intended for a trigger stop screw (used on the mechanical trigger). NOT fitted on the electronic trigger--not needed.
The trigger weight screws are located in the weight cams. (parts 162095)
One for first stage, one for second stage weight.
The hidden switch screw is part 162083 on top of the trigger frame. This adjusts the setting between bar 162079 and the switch 162089T.

[Steve Swartz as Guest]

David M:

Great expalanations!

I am not completely sure (Francesco, are you there?) of the information below- my memory ain't what it used to be, and it was never good- but I think the following is somewhat accurate:

Note that the earlier 162Es do not have the extra threaded hole for the trigger stop. When they designed the EI, Morini "standardized" a lot of the parts (for efficiency in manufacturing).

So even though it actually costs them *more* to drill and tap the (unecessary) hole for the electronic triggers, it actually saves them money in the long run because they are able to eliminate a separate SKU in their inventory.

I have an older E (no trigger stop hole) and a newer EI (trigger stop hole).

I think we discussed this in an earlier thread on trigger stops and electronic triggers?

One poster even put a screw in the hole so they could have a trigger stop on their electronic trigger??????

Or maybe I'm just making the whole thing up . . . =8^)

Steve

[Luftskytter as]

David Ms explanation and the diagram are identical to what I find in my Matchguns MG1E. No coincidence since this gun is designed by Morini.
The MG1E has the trigger stop screw, but I've disabled this since it has no purpose with the electronic trigger (that's the main advantage of the Electonic version!).