Shooting IZH 46M Match & looking to upgrade to?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:28 pm

Greetings Everyone, I am kind of in a bind, right now i am shooting a IZH 46M Match. The only thing holding me back (generaly speaking) is my equiptment. I average about 87 per target;340ish of 400. This is my last year to shoot at the National Jr. Olympic Championships, and i want this year to count. Im looking into getting a Feinwerkbau P44. Does anyone have and suggestions/likes/dislikes of this pistol? Or any other suggestions i should keep in mind?

jak11 · Post by **jak11** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:33 pm

opps, forgot to sign in when i posted that...
Anyways, Im the writer of the Thread post.

jipe · Post by **jipe** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:20 am

Consider to buy it without grip and buy a grip from Rink or Morini.

n4jee · Post by **n4jee** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:43 am

If you said you were shooting say 385 I might agree with you that the more adjustable high end guns would be a plus. Not having to charge the gun for each shot is sure a nice convenience. The Izzy, however, is going to produce just as good a group as the high end guns.

When I think I want something better, I remember:
"Even the least expensive Avanti model, the 717 pistol, has been used by (the late) world championship 10 m Air Pistol shooter Don Nygord to shoot a medal winning round in a California state championship."

I have owned a lot of 10M pistols, and they all shoot better than me. Even my Daisy 747. I do have a nice CA gun, and I do enjoy shooting it more than the 747, but my scores are not that much different.

Buy a new gun if you want one, but for that reason. Don't loose confidence in the equipment you own.

Gene

jak11 · Post by **jak11** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:53 am

The convenience is the major thing i guess. Im not losing confidince in my equipment, i just want to be able to be at the top of my game.

Left_of_Center · Post by **Left_of_Center** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:42 pm

I bought the P44 for the convenience and consistency of compressed air, how well it shoots, and I got a good deal on it. The grips are okay, but I'll probably go to a custom grip next year.

I love all the adjustments you can make to the gun, and one day I will actually use them. I also like the dry-fire setting, and the two-stage trigger is very nice although vertical adjustment to the blade is somewhat lacking. One downside is that the pistol doesn't come with weights, not that you'll need them. You'll be quite happy with the P44 (as I am) but don't exclude a Steyr LP -- you may find that it fits you better.

If you have the opportunity to hold and shoot someone's P44, LP 10, etc., you should do it.

Oz · Post by Oz » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:08 pm

I get heat for telling new shooters to stick with the Izzy and shoot it until they reach a certain score. Not that it's the score that matters, but just the experience that usually comes with that score.

From what you've said, you've done what I believe is the right process. And by now you've started to go to some matches and you are getting to know some of the other shooters.

You should be able to test hold and hopefully shoot many of the pistols at the matches. This allows you to make an informed decision on which pistol is best for _you_.

Many comments from others mirror this very thought. Don't make a decision until you've held a few on your own. Until then, you can continue improving with the Izzy. It sounds to me like you're going down a great path to your upgrade! Any of the world class pistols should win the Gold Medal. Put forth the effort and you will make the right decision.

Oz

spacestout · Post by **spacestout** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:50 pm

My only issue with the Izzy is the dry fire mechanism. It doesn't give the same feel dry firing as it does charged. And we all know how important it is to dry fire daily.

Seamaster · Post by **Seamaster** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:21 pm

I recently bought a Steyr LP10 from Germany. I had shot IZH 46M for the past year.

Do you need a better pistol?

I think you need both to appreciate both.

Steyr LP10 is a fairly easy pistol to shoot. After shooting IZH 46M, LP10 is a very easy pistol. Shot after shot stayed in same area. No stray shot at all.

I now mainly train with IZH 46M. I strains to get the same score with IZH 46M as with LP10.

But I know once my beasty IZH 46M score catches up, the LP10 would be a sweet beauty to shoot.

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:56 pm

Seamaster · Post by **Seamaster** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:42 pm

Russ,

Not a post related question.

What is the meaning of those Japanese insignia you have?

Looks like you got "it" looking at emptiness.

Understanding that "it" is certainly what shooting is all about.

When did you get "it"?

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:56 pm

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:28 pm

guesting · Post by **guesting** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:51 pm

. . . apparently it translates into ""for $35 I will answer your simple question" . . .

The link to *his* CraigsList advertisement warns "I will not accept any commercial contacts for goods or services!"

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:47 pm

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:25 am

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:48 am

Steve Swartz · Post by **Steve Swartz** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:57 am

Russ:

I think Seamaster's question was:

"What is the meaning of those Japanese insignia you have?"

Steve Swartz

[p.s. continued best wishes with the coaching thing- hope the real estate troubles haven't hit your primary occupation too hard.]

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:44 am

Steve Swartz · Post by **Steve Swartz** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:58 am

Seamaster: three people gave me independent translations (first two native-born Japanese; last one Korean):

1. Wife of faculty member: "Understanding. Sometimes, depending on context, mixed with the concept of 'appreciation'."

2. Doctoral student: "Getting it; understanding something. Or accepting something. Basically no longer struggling against something mentally."

3. Graduate Student: "Understanding; as in 'I Get It.' Sometimes given more meaning depending on context."

There you go.

Definitely applies to the whole notion of the "area aim" principle (and all that it implies). Shooters either get it- or they don't.

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