TargetTalk

Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone here can put me on the right track about range design for NRA Conventional Pistol Programs. I know this is not popular in Europe, but right now, where I am at, we have a good chance of starting out the proper way. I was wondering if anyone can assist with basic...

Old tread, but caught my minds eye. "a well designed .45 pistol that can shoot 3.5" groups at 50 yards without being at the mercy of a bullseye pistol gunsmith" Well, its certainly healthy to consider a CZ97 or a Pardini. The CZ, once set up well , will do whats necessary at 50 yards....

James, the Smith and the Pardini might be ahead in some regards, but they still suffer from the worst that tilting barrels offer: Its just too involved and expensive a system if it is to work well for target shooting. If I did not have the hindsight of handgun development of the last century or so, ...

I totally agree as well, that the 1911 has earned its place and this is to a large part because of good service assisted by tradition; And dont underestimate the latter, because here we are, essentially result oriented "performers" all (sport), and discussing not technical content but whet...

I am not saying that the 1911 is not a good target gun, just that its far from perfect as a design concept; That swing link/tipping barrel and general geometry is far from ideal thats all. There might be a different way to work things out and its a good idea to look into other possibilities for vari...

Glocks have good ergonomics with their low boreline and grip high rake angle that does two things : Lower the boreline even more and give a more subtle advantage; This detail less known outside the European target pistol designer circuit does the following : Holding your hand upright for a square gr...

I am not inventing anything new; A mere peek at "other possibilities". Believing that any attempt at innovation means re-inventing the wheel is like saying that the wheel is perfect...dont touch it, its god and thats it. The 1911, removed from religious adoration, can be seen to be far fro...

I have a few questions for seasoned bullseye shooters. Right away I will say that this is for a project that has so far left neither sketching and nor beer-table-talk phase, between myself and one employee of a major manufacturer. So please expect a mild dose of pinch of salt in my questions. I will...

Interesting Isabel.
Would like to see those photos. Unless you're in Japan for the next several Christmases, I can wait thanks .

My pardini's groove must be about .451". With factory FMJ's I could see clear signs of gas flyby on recovered slugs and the rifling was barely engraved. If your's groove diameter is also .451 then you need a 452 bullet. At least this appears to be so in my case. Not sure, but mine is a PC45 mod...

Nosler 185..is that fmj ? Actual diameter ?

Dont get me wrong guys. I like the 1911 in most forms. Recently I tried a friend's Peter Stahl's linkless version and was favorably impressed. But man oh man, that skyscraper on top of my wrist is just too much. I love it for what it is. A fine combat gun that looks good too. To get that swinging ba...

Montster, When I first got the Pardini I tried factory 230 fmj, and had shotgun patterns at 50 ft. Later I tried Fiocchi 200 grain jacketed semi wadcutters, for the same miserable result. Ejection was erratic as well and had a few failture to totally eject clear of the gun, even through the mighty w...

John, My 9mm Benelli is an MP3S. Its the target version of their short lived B76 a truly excellent performer, killed by Twain Stacks, Polly Mair and Polly Tics. I also have the 32 WC version. The MP3S shoots better than the expensive Sphinx 3000 I had bought new at one time. This reminds me of a lit...

Yes, true at the end of the day its down to shooter, hold and trigger. And thats no small feat; It takes a lot of smart effort to make things work for a pistolero. Which is why I would want the best that can be had. And I am not asking for much, just a low slung barrel, fixed to the frame and an adj...

Thank you for that quick rising sun reply about .45 US history; that ties up a few questions I had. I cant help wondering which way things might have gone, if it were a different pistol. Certainly, the 1911 has had a huge influence, but I also cant shake off the feeling that this success has actuall...

Hope the OP doesnt mind a bit more hi-jack, but this threads diversions have intriguing detail. Isabel, when you say that the 45 exposes triggering errors, you are referring to the 3.5 Lbs, yes ? I ask this because "45" often means 1911 platform de facto. I tend to agree with your statemen...

Montster, that loose slide catch should be an easy fix for Pardini techs. Just asking, if ever you have a chance to converse freely with them, can you ask them if there is much difference between the GT45 and PC45 please? I wonder if my oversize grove diameter was a one off PC45 thing... maybe an ex...

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John, the plastic covered bullets I am using now are made by Ares. They are cast but appear to be consistent. I suspect that they are mostly aimed for the action shooter. http://www.ares-gun.sk/?lang=english H&N offer a similar product but are more expensive. http://www.hn-sport.de/en/products/b...