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Coaching Corner
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:35 pm
by David M
Let's kick off a coaching discussion for new shooters.
What are the 6 typical basics for any precision pistol shooter ?
I will start...
1/ Stance
2/...
3/...
4/...
5/...
6/...
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:45 pm
by Gwhite
David M wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:35 pm
Let's kick off a coaching discussion for new shooters.
What are the 5 typical basics for any precision pistol shooter ?
I will start...
1/ Stance
2/Grip
3/...
4/...
5/...
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:28 pm
by ChipEck
See the front sight clearly
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:33 pm
by spektr
Squeeze the trigger, dont pull it.....
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:54 pm
by Tangohammerli
1. Stance is complex with body position to target(natural point of aim); head position(up right not tilted to side or up/down)
5. Follow thru
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:03 pm
by Pat McCoy
The two "basics" are to align the sights with the target and the shooter's eye; to make the gun fire without disturbing the prior alignment. All else is technique.
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:52 am
by Gwhite
You guys forgot breathing...
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:52 pm
by seamaster
Alignment, alignment.
Keep pulling trigger, keep pulling.
Let it flow, let it flow.
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:15 am
by VonKasta
Mindset, goals.
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:08 am
by David M
ChipEck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:28 pm
See the front sight clearly
Sight Picture
spektr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:33 pm
Squeeze the trigger, dont pull it.....
Trigger Control
Tangohammerli wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:54 pm
1. Stance is complex with body position to target(natural point of aim); head position(up right not tilted to side or up/down)
5. Follow thru
Follow Through
Gwhite wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:52 am
You guys forgot breathing...
Breathing
VonKasta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:15 am
Mindset, goals.
Mindset, more of a Advanced element than a basic.
So we now have 5 of the 6 basic elements...
1/ Stance
2/ Sight Picture
3/ Trigger Control
4/ Follow Through
5/ Breathing
6/...
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:30 am
by VonKasta
David M wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:08 am
Mindset, more of a Advanced element than a basic.
So we now have 5 of the 6 basic elements...
1/ Stance
2/ Sight Picture
3/ Trigger Control
4/ Follow Through
5/ Breathing
6/...
Yeah youre right, I try to teach both and sometimes I get it mixed up.
I go by 9 basics:
Warm up
Posture/stance
Grip
Breathing
Lift
Aim
Trigger control
Follow through
Routine for loading next shot (air pistol, for .22 25m call it between shots routine)
Edit: gun manners are also one of the basics but I suppose you are looking for the more practical things.
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:44 am
by spektr
PELLET TESTING, PELLET TESTING, PELLET TESTING
GOTTA SPEND TIME TESTING PELLETS
OH MY GOD WHERE ARE THE CHINESE PELLETS
WHAT DOES MY GUN SHOOT BEST
HOW WILL I KNOW
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:28 am
by Tangohammerli
Don't forget proper placement of wind flags..
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:02 am
by David M
VonKasta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:30 am
I go by 9 basics:
Warm up
Posture/stance
Grip
Breathing
Lift
Aim
Trigger control
Follow through
Routine for loading next shot (air pistol, for .22 25m call it between shots routine)
Edit: gun manners are also one of the basics but I suppose you are looking for the more practical things.
OK, I would add Grip for sure as a basic, Warm Up and Routine again I would put in Advanced.
Basics
1/ Stance
2/ Sight Picture
3/ Trigger Control
4/ Follow Through
5/ Breathing
6/ Grip
Advanced
Mindset, Warm Up and Routine let’s call
7/ Sport Psychology (Mindset and Relaxation)
8/ Match Preparation and Shot Plan
and I will add
9/ Shot Calling and Analyse
Any other Advanced elements.....?
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:19 pm
by Tangohammerli
Advanced..
Alterations to pistol for preference of shooter.
Includes grip and weight ( added or subtracted)
Specialized or at least dedicated foot wear
Any level, dry fire, dry fire, dry fire
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:09 pm
by kevinweiho
David M wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:02 amAny other Advanced elements.....?
The most important advanced element that no one mentioned is:
Don't stop believing in
yourself no matter what happens...
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:34 am
by Spencer
that is of course if you ignore some of the other points
- load magazine with required number of shots (25m)
- eyewear on and correctly aligned
- hearing protection
- magazine inserted and slide closed (25m)
- check that first round has fed (25m)
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:34 pm
by David M
Next step is to take the Basic Elements and re-arrange them in order from the Most Important to the Least important.
Stance
Sight Picture
Trigger Control
Follow Through
Breathing
Grip
So which is the most important....?
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:43 pm
by Tangohammerli
I will go with sight picture, followed by trigger control.
Re: Coaching Corner
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:44 pm
by seamaster
trigger more important then my sight picture, as my SCATT show me.