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New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:28 pm
by Leon

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:00 pm
by Christopher Miceli
I knew first :) I even got the flier and some of the spec changes

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:49 pm
by m1963
it looks like a 162 EI with a carbon fiber barrel cover, carbon fiber charging handle, and a few carbon fiber covers in the grip. Perhaps a slight change in the shape of the receiver, as well. Is there more, than that?

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:34 pm
by Leon
m1963 wrote:
it looks like a 162 EI with a carbon fiber barrel cover, carbon fiber charging handle, and a few carbon fiber covers in the grip. Perhaps a slight change in the shape of the receiver, as well. Is there more, than that?
Do not know - perhaps Christopher ( previous poster ) could post the flier?

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:51 pm
by Christopher Miceli
If you look at the video you see the electronic controls in the bottom of the gun. Not sure if that means no more left hand right hand board. Confirmed the new grip has adjust-ability. The barrel in ported as well.

Some other changes as well but i'll let you all guess

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:52 am
by Christopher Miceli
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Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:33 pm
by 45ACP223
Any specification updates, like did they modernize it by adding an absorber to keep up with all the other manufacturers? Other than foo foo stuff like carbon fiber doo dads here an there, the absorber is about the only thing they need to add. They already have one of the best triggers in air pistols, and the overall balance is good.

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:44 am
by Leon

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:50 am
by atomicgale
Are the GRIPS interchangeable between the 162EI and the new CM200EI?

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:39 am
by Gwhite
atomicgale wrote:Are the GRIPS interchangeable between the 162EI and the new CM200EI?
I strongly doubt it. From the video, the cutout in the bottom for the electronics is different, and if the grip is now adjustable for angle, it got to use a different mounting system, probably with more clearance. I suspect they redesigned the electronics using smaller modern components to allow more flexibility in the grip position.

Despite all the fancy carbon fiber stuff, I noticed the air cylinder looks just like the old ones, which (if you been following the Walther LP500 thread) is a good thing.

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:28 pm
by Christopher Miceli
45ACP223 wrote:Any specification updates, like did they modernize it by adding an absorber to keep up with all the other manufacturers? Other than foo foo stuff like carbon fiber doo dads here an there, the absorber is about the only thing they need to add. They already have one of the best triggers in air pistols, and the overall balance is good.
morini will never have an absorber. They do not believe in them.

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:29 pm
by Christopher Miceli
Gwhite wrote:
atomicgale wrote:Are the GRIPS interchangeable between the 162EI and the new CM200EI?
I strongly doubt it. From the video, the cutout in the bottom for the electronics is different, and if the grip is now adjustable for angle, it got to use a different mounting system, probably with more clearance. I suspect they redesigned the electronics using smaller modern components to allow more flexibility in the grip position.

Despite all the fancy carbon fiber stuff, I noticed the air cylinder looks just like the old ones, which (if you been following the Walther LP500 thread) is a good thing.
they did a vented barrel and they upgraded the trigger group to something more similar or the exact same part as the cm84e 2 stage trigger.

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:56 pm
by Orville
atomicgale wrote:Are the GRIPS interchangeable between the 162EI and the new CM200EI?
I may be late to the party, but I have a couple of questions.
1) What’s the price?
2) Can you change the grip from right to left without changing the electronics?

Orville

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:01 pm
by Christopher Miceli
Orville wrote:
atomicgale wrote:Are the GRIPS interchangeable between the 162EI and the new CM200EI?
I may be late to the party, but I have a couple of questions.
1) What’s the price?
2) Can you change the grip from right to left without changing the electronics?

Orville
Trying to find out myself. Anyone know anyone attending the IWA show ?

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:03 pm
by 45ACP223
Thanks for the link, that pretty well sums up the changes.

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:37 pm
by j-team
Gwhite wrote: Despite all the fancy carbon fiber stuff, I noticed the air cylinder looks just like the old ones, which (if you been following the Walther LP500 thread) is a good thing.
Yup, Walther and Feinwerkbau could learn a thing or two about evolving a proven design. It's no surprise that Morini and Steyr have comletely destroyed Walther and Feinwerkbau in the AP market in the last 20years.

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:34 pm
by Leon
j-team wrote:
Gwhite wrote: Despite all the fancy carbon fiber stuff, I noticed the air cylinder looks just like the old ones, which (if you been following the Walther LP500 thread) is a good thing.
Yup, Walther and Feinwerkbau could learn a thing or two about evolving a proven design. It's no surprise that Morini and Steyr have comletely destroyed Walther and Feinwerkbau in the AP market in the last 20years.
and that is one of the most sensible ( and accurate ) statements that I have seen on TT for a long time.

I do like the look of the CM200 EI so much that, whatever thoughts I had of acquiring the new LP500 have now vanished.

I wonder if they will bring out a compact version? I like my Moroni CM162 EI Titanium to much to dispose of it so it would make sense for me to acquire the CM200 EI Short instead of another long version.

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:58 pm
by Leon
I do have the complete and detailed brochure now, but can't post it because the file size exceeds 1mb.

Any suggestions as to how I can post it?

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:45 pm
by David Levene
Leon wrote:I do have the complete and detailed brochure now, but can't post it because the file size exceeds 1mb.

Any suggestions as to how I can post it?
Save it to something like Google Drive and then post a link to it.

Re: New Morini Air Pistol - CM200 EI

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:22 am
by kevinweiho
j-team wrote:Yup, Walther and Feinwerkbau could learn a thing or two about evolving a proven design. It's no surprise that Morini and Steyr have comletely destroyed Walther and Feinwerkbau in the AP market in the last 20years.
I wouldn’t say completely destroyed...Steyr & Morini have indeed taken a BIG chunk of the market share in the last 20 years, but both FWB and Walther are still introducing new guns in hopes of returning to their former glory...

FWB and Walther will always be known for making the finest mechanical (spring and ssp’s) air pistols of all time.