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bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:53 am
by Jordan1s
I thought this was an interesting observation(and perhaps something worth copying?) from the mens final yesterday. A left handed Anschutz 7002 Universal sight canted upside-down to allow for pre-aiming. Probably one of the most bizarre solutions I have seen in a while.

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Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:40 pm
by Andre
That is a RH canting sight. Not sure it can even tilt that much without modification....

Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:59 pm
by mtncwru
Andre is correct on both counts: right handed, and modified to allow that much tilt. Interesting idea, though.

Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:10 am
by JSBmatch
MEC make a low profile sight for this very reason!

Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:17 am
by mtncwru
And how much does MEC charge for that low-profile sight? :-)

Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:59 pm
by gwsb
WTF? What is pre aiming. And what is the idea behind this?

Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:26 pm
by Andre
gwsb wrote:WTF? What is pre aiming. And what is the idea behind this?
If you notice some shooters hold their rifles for a few seconds before putting their head down on the cheekpiece. They sometimes center up the front sight on the black while looking above the rear sight, to get an idea of hold pattern. That's my guess anyway.

Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:00 pm
by mtncwru
Andre wrote:
gwsb wrote:WTF? What is pre aiming. And what is the idea behind this?
If you notice some shooters hold their rifles for a few seconds before putting their head down on the cheekpiece. They sometimes center up the front sight on the black while looking above the rear sight, to get an idea of hold pattern. That's my guess anyway.
Pretty much exactly right.

Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:31 am
by conradin
Andre wrote:
gwsb wrote:WTF? What is pre aiming. And what is the idea behind this?
If you notice some shooters hold their rifles for a few seconds before putting their head down on the cheekpiece. They sometimes center up the front sight on the black while looking above the rear sight, to get an idea of hold pattern. That's my guess anyway.
Final adjustment to obtain the NPA?

Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:08 am
by Andre
conradin wrote:
Andre wrote:
gwsb wrote:WTF? What is pre aiming. And what is the idea behind this?
If you notice some shooters hold their rifles for a few seconds before putting their head down on the cheekpiece. They sometimes center up the front sight on the black while looking above the rear sight, to get an idea of hold pattern. That's my guess anyway.
Final adjustment to obtain the NPA?
Yes, or making sure it's even between shots. A slightly different or offset hand position can cause the gun to point slightly left or right even if the body is in exactly the same place.

Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:31 pm
by atomicbrh
I always thought a good reason for the pre-aim in the shot sequence was to make sure we were on our own target and did not cross fire on someone else's target. Maybe not a problem in the newer, larger facilities but still a potential disaster in the older club level facilities using paper targets and with little distance between firing points.

Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:52 pm
by gwsb
Anyone can crossfire atomic. In 2004 in Athens in the 3p Olympic match the Olympic Championship and gold medal changed because the shooter in first, crossfired on his last finals shot and went from Champion to 8th. And in the same match the shooter who took the silver would have had the gold if he had not shot 41 shots in kneeling and eaten a 2 pt penalty.

Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:15 am
by patriot
One year at the Blue-Grass the ole f... next to me introduced himself with a "Don't cross fire on me". The last match on Sunday he cross-fired. Karma has a sense of humor.

Mark

Re: bizarre observation from world cup changwon 2015

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:37 pm
by conradin
gwsb wrote:Anyone can crossfire atomic. In 2004 in Athens in the 3p Olympic match the Olympic Championship and gold medal changed because the shooter in first, crossfired on his last finals shot and went from Champion to 8th. And in the same match the shooter who took the silver would have had the gold if he had not shot 41 shots in kneeling and eaten a 2 pt penalty.
Yeah, but he won a wife...