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IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:46 am
by Lenny
Does anyone make custom grips for IZH-46m at this time? I don't want to alter factory grips for now for several reasons.

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:11 pm
by slofyr
Lenny wrote:Does anyone make custom grips for IZH-46m at this time?...
Maybe Steve Corcoran. His grip doesn't allow the hand to choke up as high as the Rinks, but they are better than OEM.

http://www.woodsandwateroutdoors.com/7.html

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:19 pm
by Lenny
slofyr wrote:
Lenny wrote:Does anyone make custom grips for IZH-46m at this time?...
Maybe Steve Corcoran. His grip doesn't allow the hand to choke up as high as the Rinks, but they are better than OEM.

http://www.woodsandwateroutdoors.com/7.html
Ooops. The guy who is not accepting orders at this time is Steve Corcoran. I got them mixed up, my bad. How do I contact Rink?

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:55 pm
by Rover
Go ahead and mess up the stock grips because any aftermarket grips aren't going to fit right anyway. You can replace the stock grips much more cheaply than you can the others.

Besides, you need the training in how to fit grips.

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:41 pm
by Lenny
Rover wrote:Go ahead and mess up the stock grips because any aftermarket grips aren't going to fit right anyway. You can replace the stock grips much more cheaply than you can the others.

Besides, you need the training in how to fit grips.
Where would I buy replacement stock grips?

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:42 pm
by slofyr
Lenny wrote:.... How do I contact Rink?
http://tinyurl.com/nshb49a

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:23 pm
by Lenny
slofyr wrote:
Lenny wrote:.... How do I contact Rink?
http://tinyurl.com/nshb49a
Thanks. That's what I wanted. I don't like the factory grips that came with IZH-46m. The shelf needs to be periodically re-tightened and the the grip itself developed a movement from pumping the pistol.

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:09 pm
by Rover
Since the grips suck so badly, as discussed on TT many times, fix them to please yourself. Buying new grips is not the answer to your problems. I suppose you could get the grips where you got the gun; I dunno. Maybe you could run an ad here on TT.

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:33 pm
by Gerard
Just as with his habitual ranting about how everyone but the top shooters should be buying rare SSP models from days of yore, Rover again suggests you buy Baikal stock grips without supplying a link to a store where such things can be found. Lots to rant, not so big on follow-through. Is that how you shoot too Rover?

Seems this ad from 2012 is still valid unless the guy lowered the price to $60 then forgot to say the grip was sold:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79574/me ... 337621835/

Otherwise... good luck. I'm sure something will eventually turn up. And to be fair Rover is right, everyone shooting needs to learn to carve and repair grips. It's part of the sport. A bit of Loc-tite on the shelf bolt threads should stop them coming loose. And a veneer shim might prevent the grip wiggling when you pump.

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:41 am
by Lenny
Gerard wrote:Just as with his habitual ranting about how everyone but the top shooters should be buying rare SSP models from days of yore, Rover again suggests you buy Baikal stock grips without supplying a link to a store where such things can be found. Lots to rant, not so big on follow-through. Is that how you shoot too Rover?

Seems this ad from 2012 is still valid unless the guy lowered the price to $60 then forgot to say the grip was sold:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79574/me ... 337621835/

Otherwise... good luck. I'm sure something will eventually turn up. And to be fair Rover is right, everyone shooting needs to learn to carve and repair grips. It's part of the sport. A bit of Loc-tite on the shelf bolt threads should stop them coming loose. And a veneer shim might prevent the grip wiggling when you pump.
Thanks for the link, good website. I will try loctite on shelf screws, I thought the shelf was moving because the wood eventually compresses. Will try shimming the grip with masking tape, it actually makes a good shim. I am still going to order a grip from Rink and also try to modify factory grips. I actually own two IZH-46m. I bought them from Champion's Choice more then a decade ago, when they were only $250. Having two identical pistols makes it easier for me to experiment with different trigger settings and different width of front post and rear notches.
I am a rifle shooter and shoot air pistol as cross training in the off season, but I am becoming more serious about it. Will see how it progresses. It's a very simple shooting discipline to get into. Not a lot of equipment to buy, inexpensive to shoot, and I can have full distance firing range in my basement. High end PCP might be in my future, will see.

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:39 am
by Rover
Still determined to make a futile effort at buying points, eh?

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:05 am
by william
Rover wrote:Still determined to make a futile effort at buying points, eh?
Sheeeesh! It looks like Rover's been up all night - shall we say - imbibing. It won't be long before he accuses somebody who asks the best place to get RWS Hobby pellets of trying to buy points

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:15 am
by Lenny
Rover wrote:Still determined to make a futile effort at buying points, eh?
If I was trying to buy points, I would have bought PCP. I am just trying to get something that will fit better in my small hands (I am 5'10", but I have small hands and feet). I would prefer to at least try a smaller grip, which points the pistol at a different angle to have an idea of what I want in a modified grip before I modify.

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:27 pm
by rmca
Lenny wrote: I am just trying to get something that will fit better in my small hands
Have a look at this:

http://www.issf-sports.org/theissf/acad ... istol.ashx

specially the "right hand position" part.

Read it twice, and then get to work chipping away at the grip you have, until you can get your hand to fit how it is described in the article.
If you go too far, add wood putty (two part works best) to fill the voids.

Go slow at first and remember, there is no such thing as a perfect grip! No matter how much money you spend or how much hours it takes to tune.


Hope this helps

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:55 pm
by Rover
Go to Home Depot, Lowe's, or Ace Hardware and ask for a rasp that will fit a cordless drill. They're fairly cheap and will really hog out the wood you need to remove.

You're gonna screw up (I can tell) so get some two part epoxy putty while you're there.

Get your tongue between your teeth and go for it!

This may help:
http://www.australiancynic.com/NYGORD.h ... r_Pistol's

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:02 pm
by Lenny
Rover wrote:Go to Home Depot, Lowe's, or Ace Hardware and ask for a rasp that will fit a cordless drill. They're fairly cheap and will really hog out the wood you need to remove.

You're gonna screw up (I can tell) so get some two part epoxy putty while you're there.

Get your tongue between your teeth and go for it!

This may help:
http://www.australiancynic.com/NYGORD.h ... r_Pistol's
I have a dremel set, rasps and a wood carving set and I am good at working with my hands, but I will let German craftsman do the initial fitting. Two walnut grips are on order.

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:28 pm
by Lenny
rmca wrote:
Lenny wrote: I am just trying to get something that will fit better in my small hands
Have a look at this:

http://www.issf-sports.org/theissf/acad ... istol.ashx

specially the "right hand position" part.

Read it twice, and then get to work chipping away at the grip you have, until you can get your hand to fit how it is described in the article.
If you go too far, add wood putty (two part works best) to fill the voids.

Go slow at first and remember, there is no such thing as a perfect grip! No matter how much money you spend or how much hours it takes to tune.


Hope this helps
Thank you for the link lots of good information there.

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:39 pm
by seamaster
Be careful as you file/ dremel away.

You will run out of wood, ending punching through the inner space. Then you have to patch up and strengthen the hole.

Be careful, the original 46M stock grip does not give you enough wood to file away to get to that desired "ISSF shooting angle".

It is better to add putty to get to that angle, then file/dremel away.

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:09 am
by Lenny
seamaster wrote:Be careful as you file/ dremel away.

You will run out of wood, ending punching through the inner space. Then you have to patch up and strengthen the hole.

Be careful, the original 46M stock grip does not give you enough wood to file away to get to that desired "ISSF shooting angle".

It is better to add putty to get to that angle, then file/dremel away.
Thanks for the tip.

Re: IZH-46M custom grips

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:59 am
by william
If you're serious about doing your own mod., you ignore at your peril what Don Nygord wrote on the subject as part of his series, "Nygord's Notes."

Read here:
http://www.australiancynic.com/NYGORD.htm

Nobody ever went wrong following Don's lead.