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It is unfortunate that most of the engineers who are involvedin developing the electronic trainers are concenrating on identifing the errors the shooters are making. I would hope that at least one would work on a system that would try to identify and reinforce the best techniques the shooter is using. I am sertaion that this would prove to to be of much greater value in improviing performance than what I am seeing now. Good Shooting Bill Horton

There is a discussion on the int pistol forum about whether the natural point of aim is revelent to pistol shooting and Don Niguard's comment about NPA changing from time to time for tha pistol shooter is not only valid , It is a particular error pattern thas must be detected when it occurs and corrective measures undertaken. In pistol shooting , depending on the activities the shooter has been involved in prior to shooting causes changes in the location of this ballance and results in an apparent change of the NPA. This is easily corrected by mild streaching excercises that restore the ballance in the holding muscles. Failure to do so causes the recovery after each shot to be off center on the hold area. This can be very destructive in sustained fire strings as I am sure most of you are aware of and have strugled with in the past. Good Shooting Bill Horton

2650 Plus wrote:It is unfortunate that most of the engineers who are involvedin developing the electronic trainers are concenrating on identifing the errors the shooters are making. I would hope that at least one would work on a system that would try to identify and reinforce the best techniques the shooter is using. I am sertaion that this would prove to to be of much greater value in improviing performance than what I am seeing now. Good Shooting Bill Horton

I would suggest that's just a negative approach to interpreting the data. As you coach you can easily spot and praise the good aspects. I also find you really need to see the shooters shooting on the system, to see what other factors are happening that are not recorded (eg approach to the target).

Electronic trainers are just another tool that need careful use to get the best from them.

Rob.

Electronic trainers provide data Bill, it's neither positive nor negative, it's just data. If there is anything negative that would have to come from the interpretation.

The electronic trainer has no idea what you did to make that shot, so it can't identify any technique good or bad. That would come from the shooter or the coach which interprets the data then can either reinforce the behaviors that produced it or make changes to improve some aspect of the data.

2650 Plus wrote:There is a discussion on the int pistol forum about whether the natural point of aim is revelent to pistol shooting and Don Niguard's comment about NPA changing from time to time for tha pistol shooter is not only valid , It is a particular error pattern thas must be detected when it occurs and corrective measures undertaken. In pistol shooting , depending on the activities the shooter has been involved in prior to shooting causes changes in the location of this ballance and results in an apparent change of the NPA. This is easily corrected by mild streaching excercises that restore the ballance in the holding muscles. Failure to do so causes the recovery after each shot to be off center on the hold area. This can be very destructive in sustained fire strings as I am sure most of you are aware of and have strugled with in the past. Good Shooting Bill Horton

NPA is my term for Natural Position of Alignment. i.e. the gunsight relation to the eye.

The shooter must have a "feel" for the correct balance of this position to not be forcing the gun into this eye alignment. Warming and stretching does help.

Just like life, data is what you make of it. Simply assusming a shooter is looking for negative information is . . . .. well . . . kind of negative.

Let me sugest that any time the angle of shooting arm changes relative to the body the alignment to the shooting eye changes also. This alignment is interdependent and is the basis for the need to be consistant day to day. As we have both stated , we think streaching seems to be the best approach to acheiving that consistancy. Good SHooting Bill Horton

Let me sugest that any time the angle of shooting arm changes relative to the body the alignment to the shooting eye changes also. This alignment is interdependent and is the basis for the need to be consistant day to day. As we have both stated , we think streaching seems to be the best approach to acheiving that consistancy. Good SHooting Bill Horton

I like this article:

http://www.pistol.org.au/Coaching/docum ... tition.pdf