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Hard ball loads
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:41 pm
by scott4687
Anyone out there shooting service pistols? Can anyone share their hardball load using bullseye power. Need a help with the long line.
Thanks,
Scott
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:15 am
by Guest
I can't help you with BUllseye Powder but 4.2 of VVN310 or Clays under the Sierra 8815 is a fantastic load.
Hardball load.
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:41 pm
by Guest
I also do not consider Bullseye to be your best choice. If you use a lead bullet for hardball practice then 4 grains of Bullseye is good. For the long line with a FMJ 4.8 grains of Titegroup works well for me and using 4.2 grains works well at 25 yards without changing my sights. Hope this helps.
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:20 pm
by jackh
4.8 Titegroup is indeed an excellent 50yd load. So is 5.1 VVN320 . Both these go about the 820fps of match hardball.
4.6 Bullseye chronographed about 780fps and is a good 25yd load.
Recommend Sierra 230 FMJ for the best 50 yd bullet. Winchester bulk or Zero bulk bullets for 25yds.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:58 am
by SteveT
5 grains (+/-) of Bullseye has been used for many years for hardball.
Like other posters, I don't use Bullseye anymore. Titegroup is my current hardball powder, but I've not done a lot of testing. I've tried 4.8gr at the long line and 4.2gr at the short line, but found that (old) Federal and Zero factory ammo shoots better, so I use it for all the matches.
BTW, in two of my guns the new Federal Gold Medal (red & black box) does not shoot well. In fact it groups the same as American Eagle (12+ inch groups at 50 yards). The older (white & blue box) still shoots very well, but I am down to a couple of boxes.
Steve Turner
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:30 pm
by scott4687
why titegroup? Can you get 820 fps with bullseye?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:10 pm
by SteveT
Why Titegroup? I dunno. Lots of people are using it, so I tried it and it works. It is cleaner than Bullseye. I have not chrono'd loads, but since a lot of people have found that 4.7-4.8gr TG give best accuracy, I would bet better than even money that it will be ~820 fps.
Titegroup, WST, Clays, VV N310 are all commonly used in target loads and are cleaner burning than Bullseye. Some guns may like one powder more than another, but you can probably find an acurate load with any of them for your gun.
Steve
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:07 pm
by scott4687
Ok, sold. I just bought a pound of it. Thanks for the help,
Scott
Hard Ball Loads w/ BE Powder
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:06 am
by nsk
Try 4.7 grs of BE for the Long Line;
4.0 grs for the short line.
scott4687
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:41 am
by Bullseye Shooter
I use 4.5 BE for the long line and 4.0 BE for the short line. I have a 14 pound recoil spring installed and it works for both loads.
Daryl
Navy Vet, Distinguished Pistol
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:12 pm
by Winchester
I use 30 rounds of WWB.