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Re: Is it likely that a .32 S&W long wadcutter can be reloaded on a progressive?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:29 pm
by Shiloh
It appears that the basic answer might be get a Star or read about what drops what and how much for whatever your effort and goal.

It would also appear that if you are simply reloading to reload, I suppose the above might be relevant to some.

It might also appear that if your target is at 25 yards, then maybe the gnat's butt aspect is not as important if the target is at 50 yards.

HOWEVER, "the proof is in the pudding" as they say.

The answer might be better answered by providing the results of each of the above efforts by submitting pictures of load technique along with sanctioned match targets, match scorecards, or aggregate scorecards. Each, or any, will surely eliminate the "pretenders" with their ideas and efforts.

My own efforts have been with using an RCBS Chargemaster to automatically weigh each charge. May not be gnat's butt, but the loads are consistent. I use a Dillon 550 with RCBS Cowboy dies. Powders used vary between N310, BE, and Clays. Bullets in the past were mostly Speer 98 and Lapua 83. Have used a Walther GSP Expert with a faster-twist barrel and an Older GSP ("KA" - 1990). The latter is more accurate.

My NRA classification has varied throughout the NRA Expert level.

I am starting to get back into much more regular shooting after running NRA tournaments and CMP matches for several years.

Lately, I have been using T&B bullets - 64 SWC with 1.5 Clays and 100RNFP with 2.0 BE. I use a heavy roll crimp (started with feeding for a Pardini HP for the same reason as now). I seat both level with the case edge. They look funny with the bullet side well inside the case. The result is consistent function without issue and they have produced great target scores in testing. I will be competing in several CMP Pistol Matches (50 and 25-yard targets) in the next few months.

I have also used 1.1 N310 with the 64 SWC for the short line. Because I wear hearing protection, I barely hear a "puff" ("wuss" gun to some competing along side) when the gun fires. No recoil. Don't do that when also shooting the long line with the 100RNFP because I would then have to adjust my scope.

Earl at Carlwalther once told me that trying to hit something at 50 yards with a WC bullet was like trying to hit something at 50 yards with a beer can. Just wasn't met to be.

Re: Is it likely that a .32 S&W long wadcutter can be reloaded on a progressive?

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:55 am
by JamesH
This is what I did. Had 20 off brass blocks milled and drilled out a series of holes in 0.1mm steps.
I can swap them over quickly and know exactly what charge its going to throw, no spending time tweaking and weighing.
Also a round hole should throw a more consistent charge than a slot.

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Re: Is it likely that a .32 S&W long wadcutter can be reloaded on a progressive?

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:15 pm
by BobGee
JamesH wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:05 am The expander is critical, full length and correct diameter.
James, Should the "correct diameter" be the size of the bullet or (say) one thou oversize to allow for brass springback?

Also, your brass charge bars are interesting - wish I had the facilities to make such stuff. A while back I bought a similar set-up from a guy called Steve Rutledge in NSW. He was a machinist (unfortunately retired now) who made and sold a charge bar with alternative inserts for different loads. You had to drill out the pilot holes to the size required to give you the charge you wanted from each powder. I bought a tapered reamer off eBay to ease out the holes to get just the right loads. Inserts are easy to change without emptying the reservoir. See attached PDF flyer. New inserts are no longer available but they are not difficult to make and, failing all else, the holes can be drilled out and an aluminium rod glued in, faced off and drilled to the size required.

SRF Quick change powder bar - reduced.pdf
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Bob.

PS I've just realised that Iwent through all this back in August 2022! Apologies.

Re: Is it likely that a .32 S&W long wadcutter can be reloaded on a progressive?

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:47 pm
by BobGee
JamesH wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:55 am
...a round hole should throw a more consistent charge than a slot.
Agree wholeheartedly. I am currently using up what little Bullseye powder I have left and, using the SRF powder bar I am getting remarkably consistent loads of 1.58-1.60gn (using a GemPro 250 scale) even though the powder level is now well below the baffle in my RL550B reservoir. I'm being really careful though by weighing every 5th charge. I have only 355gn left - 220 loads, but think it might be about time to break out the VV N310 and give the remaining Bullseye to someone who can use it - pistol powder a bit scarce at the moment!

Bob

Re: Is it likely that a .32 S&W long wadcutter can be reloaded on a progressive?

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:33 am
by JamesH
I found it simplest to just have a machinist knock out a bunch of brass bars, then drill them out as I needed them.
Easier than getting parts milled and turned and fitting together.
Now I need another batch.

Re: Is it likely that a .32 S&W long wadcutter can be reloaded on a progressive?

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:46 am
by BobGee
It’s probably trying to teach grandma to suck eggs but after a number of years of reloading with my previously loved RL550B and the extra-small charge bar and getting significant (in my view) variations in powder load, I've found that load consistency depends on allowing the powder to drop! That is achieved by pausing on the down stroke to give the powder time to drop from the charge bar
through the powder funnel and into the case. I now get very repeatable loads to within +/- 0.02gn* with Bullseye - a flake powder, and no spillage. Fancy that…

* I use a GemPro 250 electronic scale (which has to warmup to be consistent). Don’t know why they are not made anymore.

Bob

Re: Is it likely that a .32 S&W long wadcutter can be reloaded on a progressive?

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 5:21 pm
by fastg
Just switch to a better powder measure, problem solved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daSIAaQvDJw&t=256s

Graham

Re: Is it likely that a .32 S&W long wadcutter can be reloaded on a progressive?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:27 pm
by High Left
Shiloh wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:29 pm
Earl at Carlwalther once told me that trying to hit something at 50 yards with a WC bullet was like trying to hit something at 50 yards with a beer can.
Well ... yeah ...

But a beer can full of lead...

Thrown with a perfect 'spiral' ...