TargetTalk

Rover wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:10 am Brent375's target provides far more useful information than a mere score, which doesn't mean anything in practice.

For example: he has a VERY nice group going...does he need a zero change?

What caused the "8"? How to fix that?

The "9"s on the right look a little off, but the entire group in the "9" ring could just be a normal random variation. ???

Its not my target. Unge posted it as an example of a hard to score target. I just scanned it with Targetscan to illustrate where all ten shots are likely hiding.

Rover wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:10 am Brent375's target provides far more useful information than a mere score, which doesn't mean anything in practice.

For example: he has a VERY nice group going...does he need a zero change?

What caused the "8"? How to fix that?

The "9"s on the right look a little off, but the entire group in the "9" ring could just be a normal random variation. ???

If the zero is shifted so that the nice cluster is centered in the 10-ring, the 8 becomes a 7 and at least one of the 9s becomes an 8. I think all the "misses" being a bit high and consistently right is revealing - probably a result of repeating one (small) error. Anticipating the shot? But what do I know? I merely quote Shakespeare and make reference to Salvador Dali.

Well, I'm only interested in Shakespeare's Latin quotes.

BTW I've been to Dali's house on the Costa Brava. Somehow, his stuff appeals to me.
I saw his "Crucifixion (Corpus Hypercubus)" in NYC. Incredibly powerful!

I have the very same affliction though...

brent375hh wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:06 pm I have the very same affliction though...

If you trust the target quality, I think missing one is X

UnGe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:36 pm

brent375hh wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:06 pm I have the very same affliction though...

If you trust the target quality, I think missing one is X

My affliction is shooting high right 8s as well.
I can usually find all 10 of my shots pretty easily.

If you are right handed, shots up around 1:00 to 2:00 are often anticipation. All it takes is a tiny bit of increased grip pressure to push a shot in that direction.

As an experiment, get your normal grip, stance, etc., line up your sights , and intentionally tighten your grip a little bit. See if the sights move in that direction.

Gwhite wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:14 pm If you are right handed, shots up around 1:00 to 2:00 are often anticipation. All it takes is a tiny bit of increased grip pressure to push a shot in that direction.

As an experiment, get your normal grip, stance, etc., line up your sights , and intentionally tighten your grip a little bit. See if the sights move in that direction.

You are most correct. Squeezing the trigger totally independent of the second finger isn't always easy.
I should dry fire more, I just get bored really fast doing so.

I have an old phone mounted to a cheap telescope at the firing line. I see shot for shot where they're going so 10 shots is usually ok.

My concern is I only need to change the black but throw away the whole 17cm x 17cm target. Would love black inserts

My trap is just wide enough to put two partial targets side by side. As long as I keep all the shots in the black, it works. With two bulls, I can shoot longer before I have to wind the target carrier back to change targets.
Note that this is inherently risky, as both bulls are closer to the edge of the trap, than a single target in the middle of the trap. And a bad shot will miss the trap :-(

But sometimes looking at the trap and seeing two bulls messes with my sight picture.
On those days, I only use one target.

Just for background, this is my AP/AR setup located under the house in the crawl space.
The ground slopes, and the end where the trap is located is literally crawling high.
Hence the need to use a target carrier, so I don't have to crawl in the dirt to change targets.
Because of the very limited vertical height, I could not use the target carrier pulley that Pilkingtons sold. I had to use something with a rail/track.

The carrier mechanism was done on the CHEAP, and cobbled together from parts from Home Depot and Ace Hardware.
I just had to be creative in finding and figuring out how to use stuff for what they were not designed for.

I do have to put the AP or AR down to crank the target in, and change the target.
For AP, I don't have to move my feet. Although I usually do move my feet, just so it won't cramp, from no movement.
But if I shoot AR, the pulley is behind me, so I have to break position to work the pulley.

That limited vertical height also limited me to a 10x10 trap.